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Post by Vodmeister on Feb 25, 2014 7:40:39 GMT 5
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Post by creature386 on Feb 25, 2014 18:38:38 GMT 5
I am no muslim, nor I am a jew, so I don't think I can say a lot about this. In my school, I guess I would get a lot of trouble if I say animal rights are more important (in my class, almost everyone agrees that you just can't offend someone's religion).
If any one is interested, not only muslims and jews got criticized for this, there are also some Asian traditions which include cruel animal slaughtering.
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Post by Derdadort on Feb 25, 2014 19:23:16 GMT 5
One or two years ago there was a very controversial debate about circumcision in Germany. I think animal rights is a similar case here.
The main question was: comes the parents' right to religious freedom before a childs right to life and physical integrity?
Personally I think the right to religious freedom is a very important right, but it should be limited if it affects other peoples'/animals' rights.
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Post by LeopJag on Feb 28, 2014 8:54:29 GMT 5
Agree with Derdadort - everyone has the right to their religion of choice, at the same time i also believe that no creature should have to suffer such needless cruelty because it's suppodly law of whatever religion....
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Post by Supercommunist on Mar 1, 2014 10:54:42 GMT 5
If your personal beliefs demands you deliberately cause some living thing to endure great suffering for no real reason, you need a lesson on morality.
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Post by thesporerex on Mar 2, 2014 19:29:20 GMT 5
Coming from a person who use to be muslim. I don't really know what to think as Muslims only eat halal meat so technically you are removing the persons food unless they import it if thats allowed. But it causes harm and thats the important thing so I am for this change. I also agree that people should have a right to religious freedom but dedort said it shouldn't effect any creatures well being.
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Post by creature386 on Mar 2, 2014 19:35:16 GMT 5
But the reason why they kill animals like that is that they don't want blood in their meat. Isn't it possible to give the animals an anesthetic or to purge it from blood when it is already dead?
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Post by thesporerex on Mar 4, 2014 5:12:38 GMT 5
I have no idea, even when I was islamic I wasn't religious(as in wasn't to into the religion, hell I didn't even pray or read the Q'uran so there was really no point of being in the religion lol)
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Post by creature386 on Mar 4, 2014 22:34:07 GMT 5
Didn't you have to visit some Q'uran school where you learn Arabian and something about Islam. From what I heard, even in fist world country, many Islamic children have to do so, but I know nothing about Islam and it's believers, so I could be very well wrong.
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Post by LeopJag on Mar 5, 2014 9:34:13 GMT 5
thought i might add - i was raised a christian...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 8:24:53 GMT 5
Denmark has a lot of Christians, but many of them are not very religious.
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Post by creature386 on Apr 24, 2018 0:58:52 GMT 5
Denmark has a lot of Christians, but many of them are not very religious. It are the Jews' and Muslims' methods of slaughter who are under attack, not the Christians'. As for the thread, I think halal and kosher slaughtering should be prohibited as long as it is done without anaesthetics. |
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Post by marsupial on May 6, 2018 19:40:42 GMT 5
Denmark has a lot of Christians, but many of them are not very religious. It are the Jews' and Muslims' methods of slaughter who are under attack, not the Christians'. As for the thread, I think halal and kosher slaughtering should be prohibited as long as it is done without anaesthetics. What do you mean by slaughtering? Yes, the animals heads do get cut but it has to be done very swiftly and humanely. And before, the people have to pray first. If I sound offended I'm sorry it's just that I am a Muslim and slaughtering is a very discomforting word and does not fit what (atleast for Muslims, I don't know what Jews do.) is done. |
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Post by marsupial on May 6, 2018 19:44:51 GMT 5
Also, just to add, animal rights are also very important in Islam (as I stated in my previous comment, you have to pray before killing an animal and it must be done swiftly and humanely.).
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Post by creature386 on May 6, 2018 22:41:59 GMT 5
It are the Jews' and Muslims' methods of slaughter who are under attack, not the Christians'. As for the thread, I think halal and kosher slaughtering should be prohibited as long as it is done without anaesthetics. What do you mean by slaughtering? Killing animals for food. |
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