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Post by malikc6 on Mar 25, 2014 13:38:08 GMT 5
I feel bad that these things are going extinct. I really wish there was something we all can do to save these animals.
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 25, 2014 13:47:08 GMT 5
As ludicrous as it may sound on the surface of things, I always wondered if it was possible to "transport" polar bears to the Antarctica.
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Post by malikc6 on Mar 25, 2014 13:50:52 GMT 5
How do you think polar bear's would do in Siberia?
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 25, 2014 13:58:10 GMT 5
You mean Northern Siberia - eg where the Russian border touches the Arctic ocean? Potentially, they will need a lot of lakes/frozen ice though, to catch their preferred prey.
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Post by malikc6 on Mar 25, 2014 14:03:46 GMT 5
I wonder how Polar bears would do with the Siberian tigers and the Ussuri Brown bears.
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 25, 2014 14:06:17 GMT 5
I suspect that Polar Bears would dominate them. Ussuri Brown Bear and Siberian Tigers are usually around 400-600 pounds. Polar Bears are twice as big.
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Post by malikc6 on Mar 25, 2014 14:10:52 GMT 5
Something tells me that the polar bears despite their size and strength would be killed off by the tigers and brown bears. I feel it would be similar to when homo sapiens killed off the other human species.
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Post by creature386 on Mar 25, 2014 18:57:41 GMT 5
Why? It has no obvious intelligence disadvantage, it only would have to change its prey to deer and boars. However, as the large predators of Siberia are roughly as endangered as the polar bear (hence, not so much food), they all won't survive.
P.S. Should I move these posts in an extra thread where you can debate about that?
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Post by pckts on Mar 25, 2014 21:25:03 GMT 5
There is reports of polar bears getting over 2000 pounds.
A few actually, and reports of polar bears being to heavy for the helicopter to lift off the ground to weigh. They are indeed the largest living land predator.
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Post by pckts on Mar 25, 2014 21:26:58 GMT 5
Something tells me that the polar bears despite their size and strength would be killed off by the tigers and brown bears. I feel it would be similar to when homo sapiens killed off the other human species. Definitely not. Polar bears are quite a bit larger than brown bears with better weapons. Louis Roth (clyde beatty, mabel starks trainer) specifically said in his book that the polar bear is greater than either cat, exceptions can and have happened, but more often than not the polar bear was the victor. But both tigers and lions have killed polar bears but no way either could take on a 2000lb big male. Never going to happen. |
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 25, 2014 23:49:45 GMT 5
Why? It has no obvious intelligence disadvantage, it only would have to change its prey to deer and boars. However, as the large predators of Siberia are roughly as endangered as the polar bear (hence, not so much food), they all won't survive. P.S. Should I move these posts in an extra thread where you can debate about that? Fair enough. You can probably move every post including and beyond this one to a new thread; theworldofanimals.proboards.com/post/13227/thread |
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 25, 2014 23:53:04 GMT 5
As big and as bad as a 600 pound Amur tiger or 800 pound Ussuri brown bear might be, I doubt either of them would try to mess with a 1,800 pound polar bear! In Fox Basin, which is home to the largest population of polar bears, it was rumoured that several bears flattened the 680 kg scale. As opposed to 1500 pound brown bears (which are almost non-existent), 1500 pound polar bears were once almost a regular around the Fox Basin region.  |
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Post by creature386 on Mar 26, 2014 1:00:29 GMT 5
Why? It has no obvious intelligence disadvantage, it only would have to change its prey to deer and boars. However, as the large predators of Siberia are roughly as endangered as the polar bear (hence, not so much food), they all won't survive. P.S. Should I move these posts in an extra thread where you can debate about that? Fair enough. You can probably move every post including and beyond this one to a new thread; theworldofanimals.proboards.com/post/13227/threadDone! I am unsure if I should change the title though, as your first idea was Antarctica. |
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Post by pckts on Mar 26, 2014 1:16:51 GMT 5
There is not enough prey to support the siberian tiger (the best solitary hunting predator today) let a lone the largest land carnivore alive today. IF......... a polar bear could survive, it would be much smaller than its arctic cousin. It would be a smaller version and probably not do well because I doubt there would be any seals and walrus there to hunt, and polar bears obtain such massive size because of a diet primarily filled with a rich blubber diet.
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Post by Apex on Mar 26, 2014 2:46:44 GMT 5
Yeah it outmatched the bear and tiger but does it outcompete them
That's the question
Both the other predators are better kitted out to survive there and are more efficient in the niches available
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