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Post by Runic on Mar 26, 2014 21:16:29 GMT 5
A neat little game where we inquire the limits of predators both extant and extinct to see how everyone thinks it would go.
I'll start,
Since lone wolves are said to take bison. Do you think if they co existed there would be an account of a Grey Wolf killing a Gaur?
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 27, 2014 11:07:53 GMT 5
A lone grey wolf? Doubt it. Even tigers have a lot of trouble taking down gaur.
If African lion prides lived in North America today how do you think this would effect wolves, bears, cougars, and large ungulates (bison, moose, elk)?
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Post by mechafire on Mar 27, 2014 11:47:33 GMT 5
A lone grey wolf? Doubt it. Even tigers have a lot of trouble taking down gaur. If African lion prides lived in North America today how do you think this would effect wolves, bears, cougars, and large ungulates (bison, moose, elk)? They can probably only live with this Creatures during the summer time (snow in te winter). I say they would be fairly efficient predators of deer, moose, and bison. It might have an easier time considering how the catch faster game on the savannah. If leopards were introduced to australia, how successful would they be? |
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 27, 2014 12:57:18 GMT 5
Quite successful. Apart from large crocodiles and venomous animals, I don't really see any terrestrial threat to them. Leopards are the most adaptable of all the big cats, they'd find a way to survive in the hot desert. Predation on kangaroos, sheep, etc... is not out of question.
If the grizzly bear was introduced in Africa how would it deal with crocodiles, lions, hyenas, hippos, elephants, rhinos, buffalo's, giraffe, etc..?
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Post by mechafire on Mar 27, 2014 13:05:50 GMT 5
Quite successful. Apart from large crocodiles and venomous animals, I don't really see any terrestrial threat to them. Leopards are the most adaptable of all the big cats, they'd find a way to survive in the hot desert. Predation on kangaroos, sheep, etc... is not out of question. If the grizzly bear was introduced in Africa how would it deal with crocodiles, lions, hyenas, hippos, elephants, rhinos, buffalo's, giraffe, etc..? assuming it can deal with the climate (it's stay being temporal) The grizzly bear woul likely bully hyenas from their kills (if the pack is small enough) like how the do with wolves. However a lion pride's numbers should ensure it's dominance in most situations. It should deal with crocs fairly okay. It would likely try to avoi a tussle with any larger than say a cape buffalo. However, I find it difficult for the bear to maintain a territory. It should stay in the wooded areas. Dry open Savannahs of africa just don't seem like a good place for a bear. How would African wild dogs fair in wolf territory? |
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 27, 2014 13:09:03 GMT 5
No next question?
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Post by mechafire on Mar 27, 2014 13:12:49 GMT 5
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 27, 2014 13:16:49 GMT 5
African wild dogs are incredible predators with an impressive hit rate, I think that they'd fare against wolves just as well as they fare against hyenas. They wouldn't be out-competed by their larger cousins, and would be able to hold their own on most occasions.
How would Ngandong tiger fare in East Russia and Northern China today? Presuming it was really 400 kg. What would it prey upon? How would its relationship with bears and the smaller modern tigers be like?
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Post by Nousagi-no-Kyoki on Mar 27, 2014 19:10:05 GMT 5
How would Medium sized raptors like Deinonychus fare in competition with African Lions, Siberian Tigers or Brown bears?
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Post by creature386 on Mar 27, 2014 19:36:51 GMT 5
Nousagi-no-KyokiThey would compete with the predators in their size range (like leopards). VodmeisterI guess it would have similar problems to the polar bear in the scenario I assumed. Since there are reports of leopards killing elands, do you think a leopard could kill a full sized giant eland (900 kg v 60 kg)?
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 27, 2014 20:11:03 GMT 5
Head on the leopard would get wrecked, but in an ambush scenario it could win (unless we're talking about Ursus panthera's eland)
If humans were only as intelligent as normal primates (eg. chimps, gorillas) how would we survive in the wild and how would we deal with large herbivores, bears, and felines?
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Post by creature386 on Mar 27, 2014 20:45:29 GMT 5
This shouldn't be a problem, many would die, but we'd adapt after some time.
Which large predator has the best chance to survive the human mass extinction, in your opinion?
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Post by theropod on Mar 27, 2014 23:18:23 GMT 5
Killer whales and wolves seem to be doing pretty well. Populations may die out, but the whole species are not endangered due to their huge distribution and sheer numbers, and their versatility.
Which large extant predator would fare best in a late jurassic setting?
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Post by mechafire on Mar 28, 2014 0:08:56 GMT 5
Killer whales and wolves seem to be doing pretty well. Populations may die out, but the whole species are not endangered due to their huge distribution and sheer numbers, and their versatility. Which large extant predator would fare best in a late jurassic setting? Killer whales may be able to survive. Land animals, probably cats like mountain lions. |
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 28, 2014 0:26:49 GMT 5
Which large extant predator would fare best in a late jurassic setting? I don't know. My wildcard would be lions, they are modestly large in size and good pack hunters, which will be essential in survival against bigger dinosaurs. If you include marine animals, probably killer whales. How would deinosuchus (8 meter, 2.5 tonne) crocodile do in Africa today? What would it prey upon? |
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