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Post by theropod on Nov 26, 2014 22:50:23 GMT 5
I’ve got no confidence in Horner’s unpublished stuff. Finding out the size of that Mosasaurus is actually not that complicated. It’s coming up vertically to swallow that shark, so the two have to be in pretty much the same plane. That thing’s a better scalebar for that skull than some I’ve seen published in Nature. The maximum skull lenght of that is at least 70% greater than the total lenght of the shark, the mandible length at least 81%. That’s already distorting the skull as to make it shorter along its long axis, the animal from the trailer seems to have a less elongated skull (btw it also seems to have an underbite, i.e. wrongly articulated jaws). Now, I strongly doubt that shark was supposed to be anything under 2m long, both because I don’t know any shark that has a built like that below 2m, and because I don’t think the makers of that film would deliberately use a tiny shark to compare to their mosasaur (that kind of comic relief is not known from the franchise if I’m not mistaken). That’s only my guess, but it looks like that. Perhaps someone can find better information. I’m attaching a file for the measurements. Sadly, on closer inspection, it looks like the Mosasaur has got some sort of crest on its back, like in inaccurate illustrations from 100 years ago. I hope that will not be too visible in the movie. Attachments:
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Post by Grey on Nov 26, 2014 23:01:41 GMT 5
Well if you're right that's still fits Horner statement. After all he advised the movie.
It's fairly possible thus that the mosasaur is in excess of 20 m. Now while comparing with the people closer to the lagoon, I really think the shark is not that large.
Also, depending of the shot, in the previous movies there were also shots of Spino or Rexy looking larger than the official size listing said.
I dont think thus we're looking at a really really oversized maximum sized Mosasaurus.
Anyway we'll have the response soon.
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Post by theropod on Nov 26, 2014 23:19:20 GMT 5
So how long do you think that shark is? Unless it’s ~1.15m or less, that skull can’t fit any mosasaur currently on record (unless there’s a specimen larger than the giant quadrate from Lingham-Soliar that nobody except Horner is aware of). This wasn’t a guess based on how impressive it looks next to the people. If that’s a 2m shark it’s almost 3/4 larger than the currently largest fragmentary specimen of Mosasaurus.
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Post by gigadino96 on Nov 27, 2014 0:26:33 GMT 5
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Post by allosaurusatrox on Nov 27, 2014 0:27:03 GMT 5
Artistic license?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 1:05:02 GMT 5
So much scientific debating over a movie trailer...
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Nov 27, 2014 1:27:47 GMT 5
That's a problem for orcas as SeaWorld too. Maybe there is a hidden message behind it? Like maybe we should either make tanks holding giant marine animals GIGANTIC or release them back into the ocean? I don't know, maybe I am thinking too much into it.
And you guys really should stop overthinking it to. We are talking about a high-budget science-fiction movie produced by the same company that made Man of Steel, Pacific Rim, and Godzilla 2014 happen where prehistoric animals are resurrected by extracting their blood from mosquitoes that have been suspended in hardened amber for millions of years. Not to mention how they are using frog DNA to "fill in" the gaps. The point being, scientific accuracy was not their primary focus, and I really want you guys to just enjoy yourselves while watching the movie and turning off your brains
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Nov 27, 2014 1:32:45 GMT 5
Liviathan, you should have included "f*cking" before the "movie" in your post!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 1:55:06 GMT 5
Defs should
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Post by creature386 on Nov 27, 2014 2:04:24 GMT 5
The movie makers found an efficient way (including errors that cause responses with no end) to get even more attention!
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Post by theropod on Nov 27, 2014 2:40:39 GMT 5
The point about science fiction is to create something that has logical consistency within its own premises. E.g. assuming mesozoic DNA could survive for that long and be recovered, the rest should be intended to be realistic. And I think that originally it was intended to be (the oversized Velociraptors aside, that being just a dumb taxonomic mistake), but obviously it doesn’t work that way any more.
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Post by allosaurusatrox on Nov 27, 2014 3:28:25 GMT 5
So much scientific debating over a movie trailer... Welcome to the world of Jurassic park...
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Post by coherentsheaf on Nov 27, 2014 3:42:25 GMT 5
Cau hits the nail on the head.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 4:50:56 GMT 5
So much scientific debating over a movie trailer... Welcome to the world of Jurassic park... Yes. How much are you willing to bet that people will make threads on forums, declaring D. rex as their favourite dinosaur, and saying it's a secret real dinosaur hidden by Universal?
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Post by allosaurusatrox on Nov 27, 2014 7:32:27 GMT 5
Hmmm....27 creds.
I've already see D. Rex followers. And the movie isn't even OUT yet.
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