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Post by kingkazma on Jun 12, 2015 2:21:53 GMT 5
me and my friends are going to see this so we can just laugh. i better be amused.
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Post by spinodontosaurus on Jun 12, 2015 2:52:05 GMT 5
So I've finaly seen it, the end of the final fight was awesomebro stupid, the dinosaur designs are still terrible, the CGI is pretty good in the first half but it somehow becomes worse and very noticiable in the other half... and yes there are problems with the writting and the plot becomes predictable but is not a bad dumb blockbuster movie, I did enjoy it more than JP2 and JP3 (which I watched yesterday to refresh my memory), I personally wouldn't call it a worthy succesor to the original as this one is decidedly dumber which is not necesarily a bad thing on its own. Can't say I noticed the CGI degrading over the run time, but the rest of this is pretty much what I thought of it. I felt the dinosaurs themselves had a lot more 'character' to them than in any previous film too. |
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Post by stomatopod on Jun 12, 2015 23:34:50 GMT 5
So can we start with spoilers?
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Post by Deathadder on Jun 13, 2015 0:13:58 GMT 5
NOOOOO
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Post by theropod on Jun 13, 2015 13:48:10 GMT 5
So can we start with spoilers? Yes. I think I’m gonna watch it these days, but only to get a good laugh. I don’t have that kind of emotional attachment to everything in the franchise… |
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Post by Infinity Blade on Jun 15, 2015 0:57:51 GMT 5
I just saw it.
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Jun 15, 2015 2:56:38 GMT 5
saw the end fight. kinda anti-climactic.
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Post by Deathadder on Jun 15, 2015 2:57:31 GMT 5
I actually sadly have to agree.
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Post by stomatopod on Jun 15, 2015 4:20:18 GMT 5
Kill steal.
Two of the most iconic dinosaurs manage to beat up Indominkus(whose name is bad Latin).
Then an overgrown Monitorsnake snatches it.
Yawn.
BTW I left when Indomitus talked the raptors into betraying. Most likely it can bend spoons with its mind too.
Well, it was in developement hell, and still better than JP3, but that tells us more about the letter.
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Post by Infinity Blade on Jun 15, 2015 6:17:28 GMT 5
I was personally interested with the references to previous JP films, such as the flare with the T.rex, finding the ruins of the original visitor center, and the mounted Spinosaurus skeleton that the T.rex ruined in its entrance to the final battle. I also found a small portion of the beginning to be intriguing; the theropod foot stepping down on the ground, only to reveal a bird (I have a feeling that was a deliberate nod to the relationship between dinosaurs and birds).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 8:16:51 GMT 5
I'm gonna watch it for the action sequences.
The inaccuracies become tolerable when you put it as a monster movie and not as a dinosaur movie.
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Post by Ceratodromeus on Jun 16, 2015 6:27:01 GMT 5
The innaccuracies are fine once you get over the fact this isn't a documentary -- but a science fiction movie -- and the majority had to do with continuity. Re: this issue, Here's what jack horner has to say - Jack Horner provided advice to Steven Spielberg on the science of dinosaurs for all of the movies, and due to this fact some other scientists have criticized him. Horner believes these objections are misplaced. “ It’s a movie, a fictional movie. The last thing it needs to be is scientifically grounded,” said Horner, according to CBS. “Steven Spielberg and Colin and everybody were interested in at least having as much grounded as possible but without ruining the movie. They wanted the dinosaurs to be as accurate as possible. But once they are accurate looking, they become the actors and they obviously do thing that real animals wouldn’t do – like chasing people all over the place and breaking into buildings just to eat a person.” For example, Jurassic World’s pterosaurs are capable of picking up humans and flying away, yet Horner admits “we don’t have any flying a at any point in time that could pick up humans.” Other scientists who spoke to The Washington Post noted that pterosaurs’ “bones are like paper” and it would probably be easy to crush them in defense, or ring their necks since the neck bones are not thick. ......... Still, the lack of any feathered dinosaurs was fairly notable, so Jack Horner provided the reason why Jurassic World’s dinosaurs were plucked clean. “ We have to maintain consistency across movies. You can’t bring dinosaurs back in the first movie and not have feathers, and then bring back dinosaurs in the fourth movie WITH feathers. We just need to maintain the consistency and y’know, the raptors in Jurassic World are really cool. And I don’t think that missing feathers on their arms is going to take anything away from the movie…. A technicolor-feather-dinosaur is not as scary as the dinosaurs that are depicted in the movie.” Regardless of Jurassic World’s science errors, Horner also believes a genetically engineered dinosaur is just a matter of time, but he also claims the first result will probably be something that’s hardly scary: a Chickenosaurus. www.inquisitr.com/2167595/jurassic-world-science-errors-like-feathered-dinosaurs-defended-by-jack-horner/It's not like the errors are being blatantly ignored -- far from it. If the innacuracies bother you that much, I think that's rather sad. but that's just my POV. Saw the movie in its entirety, definetly better then the third movie and close overall to the second. |
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Post by spinodontosaurus on Jun 16, 2015 7:58:54 GMT 5
I beg to differ. It wouldn't be hard to justify it by saying earlier versions were more inaccurate to do more primitive technology and over reliance on splicing in DNA from modern animals. There's even a line in the film that says the animals look considerably different to what they should because of said DNA.
It would have made the whole "don't play with nature" theme stronger too if the dinosaurs were realistic. The Indominus rex's creation would also make a lot more sense given real dinosaurs are neither as large nor as 'fearsome' looking as most people would think. I know Broly's recent chart made the I. rex look no larger than real theropods, but that's because he scaled it after the official website's claim of it being 12 meters. But it was actually 50 feet (15.24 meters) as per the movie itself, it towered over any actual theropod.
The first movie at least tried to present dinosaurs that were accurate, and it was better because of it. Jurassic World didn't even attempt to do the same thing. It was lazy and unambitious.
I still enjoyed the movie, however, that was in-spite of the models, when we could have been here talking about how we enjoyed it because of the models.
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Post by blaze on Jun 16, 2015 10:12:55 GMT 5
They said I. rex was designed to be 50ft long but it wasn't fully grown yet, that's why the website has it at "currently 40ft".
I agree, even if the final fight was dumb, having accurate Tyrannosaurus and Deinonychus killing the monster freak of Indominus would have been a much stronger message, as it stands all of them are monsters not dinosaurs.
btw what was Horner's job for this movie? what the hell did he consult on?
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Post by theropod on Jun 16, 2015 12:31:37 GMT 5
Also if they had gotten more accurate, that would perfectly corroborate Grant's statements during the third film (about making real discoveries vs genetically engineered thjeme park monsters").
Fine, if Horner doesn't care that much about accuracy. I can hardly say this surprises me. But being in line with the science of the time was what made the first JP special, and what set it apart from the dumb monster movie that it could have become. The sequels didn't do anything to keep up that image, they just relied on continuing character storylines instead.
Certainly, consistency isn't an argument for the reasons spinodontosaurus gave.
Well, maybe in the next film...
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