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Post by Vodmeister on Jul 10, 2014 4:15:25 GMT 5
Spectrum of theistic probability
Popularized by Richard Dawkins in The God Delusion, the spectrum of theistic probability is a way of categorizing one's belief regarding the probability of the existence of a deity.
1. Strong theist. 100 per cent probability of God. In the words of C.G. Jung: "I do not believe, I know."
2. De facto theist. Very high probability but short of 100 per cent. "I don't know for certain, but I strongly believe in God and live my life on the assumption that he is there."
3. Leaning towards theism. Higher than 50 per cent but not very high. "I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God."
4. Completely impartial. Exactly 50 per cent. "God's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable."
5. Leaning towards atheism. Lower than 50 per cent but not very low. "I do not know whether God exists but I'm inclined to be skeptical."
6. De facto atheist. Very low probability, but short of zero. "I don't know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there."
7. Strong atheist. "I know there is no God, with the same conviction as Jung knows there is one."
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Post by malikc6 on Jul 10, 2014 9:46:31 GMT 5
I believe in spirits and that beings are spirits living in physical bodies. However I don't know or care too much about a "god." Spirits can just be life that we don't quite understand yet.
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Post by creature386 on Jul 10, 2014 13:40:20 GMT 5
I choose three, using the deist definition. It may not be very logical, but I let my feelings take too much control over my mind in such questions. Sorry.
EDIT: I voted six now.
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Post by coherentsheaf on Jul 10, 2014 16:06:17 GMT 5
7, barring standard errors of epistemology.
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Post by Vodmeister on Jul 11, 2014 15:34:28 GMT 5
The definition of God is very vague. As Sean Carroll stated, theism in general is not well defined. Some definition of God are definitely more probable than others.
All in all I would consider myself to be a 5.
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Post by 0ldgrizz on Nov 24, 2014 19:48:15 GMT 5
I believe in God, as life is too complex to be an accident. I believe that evolution is God's method. "Nuff said.
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Post by theropod on Nov 24, 2014 20:32:20 GMT 5
Changed my mind, 7, strong atheist.
The god that appears in the bible or the Qur’an is just plain impossible even from a philosophical point of view–something just can’t be "omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and omnibenevolent" from a logical point of view. Furthermore, from a historical point of view that god would obviously not be omnibenevolent, and if we were to accept any of those holy books, his own words would prove that. So in that regard, actually I’m a 7, because I am sure that such a god does not exist (and hell, I wouldn’t want it to exist either).
There is a possibility that I can not completely rule out that our universe (or what we think of as our universe, anyway was influenced, perhaps even created, by some sort of extremely powerful being (or beings), which just not hasn’t been discovered yet.
I find that very unlikely, but I can’t falsify it either, so my view bases on parsimony and probability. Hence concerning that, I’m still a 6.
However, I think "God" would not be the right word to describe such an entity. If such beings existed, and were discovered, that would just imply a significant advancement of modern science and an extension of natural principles, no more, no less.
"Supernatural" is thus just a natural phenomenon that hasn’t been understood yet, because everything there is is natural.
I.e., what I think could be possible (but don’t believe in), I just wouldn’t call a god.
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Post by gigadino96 on Nov 24, 2014 20:50:50 GMT 5
I'm impartial, or 4. I don't really care if God exist or not.
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Post by creature386 on Nov 24, 2014 22:50:09 GMT 5
A fairly balanced poll result and the results are pretty much what I suspect in a place like here.
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Nov 26, 2014 2:55:07 GMT 5
I am a theistic evolutionist who primarily believes in the world and teachings of science but believes in God
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 6:35:25 GMT 5
7 - Strong atheist.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 15:50:03 GMT 5
I would be at a 3. Close to what creature386 said.
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Post by Dakotaraptor on Dec 28, 2014 3:00:28 GMT 5
I am agnostic atheist. I strongly believe God does not exist, but i wouldn't 100 % certain about it. Previously i was something between 2 and 3.
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Post by Vodmeister on Dec 28, 2014 3:14:04 GMT 5
Most religious people tend to range between 2 and 3. I know of very few who would actually be a 1, perhaps some extremists who'd willingly bet their lives that every word in their holy book (usually either the Bible or Qur'an) is true.
I still haven't changed my mind though, I'm a 5. I don't believe in a god, but I wouldn't bet anything on it.
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Post by malikc6 on Dec 28, 2014 5:42:40 GMT 5
Religious or not, there are many stuff we don't know what happens to consciousness after death, if at all. We found out recently that consciousness isn't entirely affiliated with the brain. I think there is something more to it then evolution/god or whatever. I think its a good idea for both religious people and atheists to look into other cultures and take a long look, and draw your conclusions from there.
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