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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 1, 2013 4:35:13 GMT 5
It wouldn't even need venom to win. The mechanical damage from its jaws alone would pretty much total anything on the bear it bit. The jaws of varanids are some of the best weapons out there, hell i'd favor a varanid of near equal size over a canine, feline, or ursid. Not all Varanids have such exceptional bites, the savannah monitor and black tgroat monitors for example both used crushing bites oppose to the slicing bite of something like the perentie. |
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Post by Runic on Jun 1, 2013 5:29:41 GMT 5
It wouldn't even need venom to win. The mechanical damage from its jaws alone would pretty much total anything on the bear it bit. The jaws of varanids are some of the best weapons out there, hell i'd favor a varanid of near equal size over a canine, feline, or ursid. Not all Varanids have such exceptional bites, the savannah monitor and black tgroat monitors for example both used crushing bites oppose to the slicing bite of something like the perentie. I know, if I'm not mistaken the nile crushes too. I meant to say the slicers lol not many animal can cripple something over 10 times bigger than them in one bite like a komodo dragon. |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 1, 2013 6:02:21 GMT 5
Not all Varanids have such exceptional bites, the savannah monitor and black tgroat monitors for example both used crushing bites oppose to the slicing bite of something like the perentie. I know, if I'm not mistaken the nile crushes too. I meant to say the slicers lol not many animal can cripple something over 10 times bigger than them in one bite like a komodo dragon. Yes niles have a crushing bite aswell. I personally think Ora are highly underrated as predators. |
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Post by Runic on Jun 1, 2013 6:06:49 GMT 5
I know, if I'm not mistaken the nile crushes too. I meant to say the slicers lol not many animal can cripple something over 10 times bigger than them in one bite like a komodo dragon. Yes niles have a crushing bite aswell. I personally think Ora are highly underrated as predators. Oh boy you don't know the half of it. On CF people thought snow leopard and grey wolf vs komodo dragon was a mismatch for the mammal. A freaking Grey wolf and snow leopard! |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 1, 2013 6:10:23 GMT 5
Yes niles have a crushing bite aswell. I personally think Ora are highly underrated as predators. Oh boy you don't know the half of it. On CF people thought snow leopard and grey wolf vs komodo dragon was a mismatch for the mammal. A freaking Grey wolf and snow leopard! I posted on CF before I know what your talkibg about. |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 1, 2013 6:23:29 GMT 5
Btw Black Ice If you are interested I have a thread on AE dedicated solely to monitor, there are a couple good reads and several interesting videos. here |
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Post by Runic on Jun 1, 2013 7:01:04 GMT 5
Btw Black Ice If you are interested I have a thread on AE dedicated solely to monitor, there are a couple good reads and several interesting videos. hereThanks! |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 1, 2013 7:19:00 GMT 5
Btw Black Ice If you are interested I have a thread on AE dedicated solely to monitor, there are a couple good reads and several interesting videos. hereThanks! I thought about reposting it here but its like 10 pages long. |
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Post by grizzly on Jun 1, 2013 17:59:19 GMT 5
Bears have what some experts believe just might be the most sensitive nose in the animal kingdom. In any case, a Kodiak bear has a great sense of smell. If the Australian dragon has the stench of deadly bacteria in his saliva like a Komodo dragon, then the bear just might reconsider the big lizard as being prey potential. Bears are highly intelligent animals. If the dragon has the bear cornered, then a fight might be inevitable. I would think that the bear could kill the huge monitor lizard. However, it is unlikely that the bear could do so without some deadly injuries to himself. No real winner here.
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Post by theropod on Jun 1, 2013 18:05:37 GMT 5
Komodo dragons use venom, not bacteria: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2690028In fact no animal employs bacteria as a means of killing, even tough there are certainly many cases were a bite causes a life-threatening infection. In such a fight, Megalania wouldn't really need its venom. Monitor lizards are well known for severing tendons. A single bite can incapacitate instantly. In many areas, it would also cause near instant death to a bear-sized creature. |
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Post by DinosaurMichael on Jun 1, 2013 18:12:32 GMT 5
Komodo dragons use venom, not bacteria: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2690028In fact no animal employs bacteria as a means of killing, even tough there are certainly many cases were a bite causes a life-threatening infection. In such a fight, Megalania wouldn't really need its venom. Monitor lizards are well known for severing tendons. A single bite can incapacitate instantly. In many areas, it would also cause near instant death to a bear-sized creature. Don't they have both venom and bacteria? That's what I thought. |
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Post by theropod on Jun 1, 2013 18:16:10 GMT 5
Of course there are bacteria in every oral cavity, many are essential for survival, however not more in dragons than in any other animal.
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Post by DinosaurMichael on Jun 1, 2013 18:51:42 GMT 5
Of course there are bacteria in every oral cavity, many are essential for survival, however not more in dragons than in any other animal. Oh okay. I just wasn't sure if it was both or just the venom. |
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Post by grizzly on Jun 2, 2013 0:57:02 GMT 5
I believe that the Kodiak bear would kill the dragon. Brown bears are extremely powerful omnivores. By the time that Megalania's venom takes effect, the big lizard will be dead. The bear will likely die soon after. -my opinion.
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 2, 2013 1:08:35 GMT 5
I believe that the Kodiak bear would kill the dragon. Brown bears are extremely powerful omnivores. By the time that Megalania's venom takes effect, the big lizard will be dead. The bear will likely die soon after. -my opinion. The venom may take time to take effect but massive bleeding and shock will occur very quickly, in the mean tim the lizards durability will ensure it survives any offense the bear can muster in the short amount of time it will still be able to stand. |
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