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Post by Grey on May 28, 2018 15:32:53 GMT 5
I guess everyone has seen the trailer. Here is a new spot : www.ispot.tv/ad/d7ah/the-meg-movie-trailerContrary to what some might speculate, it appears to have some scientific advise in the design, confirmed by the director in an interview, I don't know yet by which authors. The Meg doesn't look like a simply overgrown great white but was apparently based on a mix between GWS and makos. Despite this being a entertainment popcorn movie, the representation is ironically perhaps more rigorous than many Jurassic World dinosaurs and creatures, the 26 m, 30 tonnes Mosasaurus or the big jawed, small clawed Baryonyx I'm talking to you... |
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Post by marsupial on May 29, 2018 4:04:07 GMT 5
Nice, I actually have not watched the trailer until now with your link.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 4:54:59 GMT 5
Cool
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Post by prehistorican on May 30, 2018 7:26:37 GMT 5
I really like the enlarged 8 gill design which is speculated to help the shark cruising at speeds. It's probably one of the most Carcharocles looking Megalodon ever in film.
Anways I have a theory that the Megalodon attacks and destroys a millitary/navy submarine . There is a room with red lights which is the inside of a navy submarine, as can be seen on the walls (American Flag, Navy Symbol) The shark then crunches down onto it, this possibly causes flooding and an explosion. Then you can see the torpedo fire at the Megalodon, definitely a navy submarine. The explosion, if you look closely there is the Megalodon in front of it. The flooding and impact and other chain reactions from the Megalodon bite could have caused the torpedos inside the submarine to activate, causing it to explode.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 10:50:18 GMT 5
That seems like an interesting detail
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Post by Grey on May 30, 2018 15:40:23 GMT 5
Indeed I wonder if meg and giants active macropredatory sharks may have had additional gills in order to gain enough oxygen to stay active at massive sizes.
Yes, the design is very good, it is not an overgrown GWS.
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Post by prehistorican on May 30, 2018 23:31:39 GMT 5
I would speculate that would have both, enlarged gills (proportionately) and a larger number of gills. If the Meg has well developed red muscle and a heavily calcified skeleton, it would cruise pretty damn fast as much as the 12mph suggested by IFL as a minimum for ram ventilation and metabolic constraints. I would like to point out that the shark does have a pushed forward dorsal fin I believe. The blunter nose and larger eyes make it look very Carcharocles-ish similar to the head of Gottfried. This Meg almost looks the size of a large rorqual, if not exceeding it but not far off. If you scale the largest great white to the movie Megalodon you get 151 tonnes for a 22.8m shark.  |
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Post by Grey on May 31, 2018 0:57:25 GMT 5
The movie meg size is directly based on Vito Bertucci reconstruction which he estimated coming from a 100 tonnes shark.
This is fairly reasonable, I tend to not use too much fat GWS for meg body mass extrapolations.
Regarding the eyes, those of Gottfried were rather a bit smaller than in GWS.
But yes, they definitely consulted scientific data regarding how to reconstruct the meg. The director confirmed it in an interview, he absolutely wanted to avoid the simply enlarged GWS, which would have been very cheap.
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Post by prehistorican on May 31, 2018 1:41:23 GMT 5
Wow, based off the Bertucci Jaws? That's new, and pretty interesting. I like the larger eyes anyways, remind me of a shortfin mako. Is there a link to the interview? I would love to see this.
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Post by Grey on May 31, 2018 14:57:43 GMT 5
It was always based on Bertucci. He was friend with Alten who used this jaw and the 75 ft estimate as inspiration for one of his megalodons, though Alten was always very light on the weight descrption. But I know Bertucci predicted his jaws coming from a 100 tonnes individual.
The interview was exclusively in a French magasine but I'm sure more will come.
Strange, I don't the eyes as enlarged, small mackrel sharks have quite larger eyes than this. However, SPOILER :
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Post by prehistorican on May 31, 2018 20:05:10 GMT 5
I think his Meg estimates for weight were quite off in my opinion, I assume you are talking about Angel the Megalodon which was 22m length but only because she was in captivity? Well at least now they have one that is naturally that big, Angel if I remember weighed 50 tonnes. That is slight underweight for a Meg of 22m feet in length. But then he went ahead and got a 80 foot Livyatan Mellvelli, 120 foot Liopluerodon Ferox (somehow only weighed 90-100 tonnes). At least Maxy got his hypothetical scaling sizes correct, (even though all his statistics are pseudoscience). As for the last part of juvenile and adult, I saw that coming as I occasionally watch a YouTuber/Meghead named RedLeaderOne who discussed about this. I'm not sure which is the juvenile though, is it the one in the first scene of the trailer, and then the one breaching to eat the beachgoers on the raft?
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Post by Grey on May 31, 2018 20:37:52 GMT 5
Alten often is strange with his weight figures, especially since in an interview he assumed megalodon as reaching 200 000 pounds.
But he once said he oversized the other critters because his novel megs needed a challenge. Remember it is "Liopleurodon panthalassa", meant to be a superevolved species. I don't like these fictional critters anyway, the three first novels were far more solid on this part.
I suspect the one attacking the shark cage in tv spot is the youngster.
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Post by prehistorican on May 31, 2018 21:00:30 GMT 5
Yeah, I dislike the oversized Lioplueorodon as well. Sometimes Alten takes away the focus from the Megs and puts them on the hyperevolved creatyres or exaggerated ones, I mean why the hell is it called the "Meg" series then? (Example Meg:Nightstalkers, honestly felt like that could be a standalone). But damn that is a massive youngster then! Some people say the youngster is 14m in lenght! So borderline immature/subadult.
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Post by prehistorican on Jun 1, 2018 23:32:15 GMT 5
Alright guys I would like to ask what do you predict about
1: This movies total box office
2: IMDB score out of /10
3: Critic Reviews
My prediction:
1: Total Box Office Prediction $300-600 million
2: 4/10-8/10 on IMDB
3: "Fun movie, entertaining" "Wanted to see statham punch a shark, not disappointed" "The new shark movie we all needed"
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Post by Grey on Jun 2, 2018 14:33:42 GMT 5
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