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Post by rock on Jun 14, 2019 5:33:06 GMT 5
male south american jaguar round 1 spotted hyena round 2 cougar round 3 eastern silverback gorilla round 4 grey wolf [pack of 5] round 5 spotted hyena [clan of 5]
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jun 14, 2019 5:59:47 GMT 5
Stops at 4
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Post by rock on Jun 14, 2019 15:29:36 GMT 5
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Post by DonaldCengXiongAzuma on Jun 17, 2019 9:15:19 GMT 5
Honestly, the gorilla is highly underrated. Despite the fact it does not have claws, it has size advantage as well as strength and can deliver painful skull bites just like jaguar's can. Plus the gorilla can hold down the jaguar and bite or slam it if it can endure its thin skin scratching it up badly. The jaguar can kill a gorilla if it manages to ambush it or attack it at night.
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Post by rock on Jun 17, 2019 17:28:56 GMT 5
Honestly, the gorilla is highly underrated. Despite the fact it does not have claws, it has size advantage as well as strength and can deliver painful skull bites just like jaguar's can. Plus the gorilla can hold down the jaguar and bite or slam it if it can endure its thin skin scratching it up badly. The jaguar can kill a gorilla if it manages to ambush it or attack it at night. it is underated but i do not know how good it would do against a jaguar who is larger and stronger than a lioness
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jun 17, 2019 17:31:12 GMT 5
Honestly, the gorilla is highly underrated. Despite the fact it does not have claws, it has size advantage as well as strength and can deliver painful skull bites just like jaguar's can. Plus the gorilla can hold down the jaguar and bite or slam it if it can endure its thin skin scratching it up badly. The jaguar can kill a gorilla if it manages to ambush it or attack it at night. it is underated but i do not know how good it would do against a jaguar who is larger and stronger than a lioness Umm....how? Largest jaguar subspecies averages 95 kg. Lionesses average 130 kg
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Post by rock on Jun 17, 2019 17:47:04 GMT 5
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jun 17, 2019 20:28:44 GMT 5
You need a source to back that up. Is there from a reliable source any jaguar population averaging more than 130 kg?
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Post by rock on Jun 17, 2019 21:08:35 GMT 5
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Post by rock on Jun 17, 2019 21:09:34 GMT 5
You need a source to back that up. Is there from a reliable source any jaguar population averaging more than 130 kg? anyhow who do you back here , the jaguar or the gorilla?
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Post by creature386 on Jun 17, 2019 21:13:40 GMT 5
Rock, please learn to use better sources!
As a rule of thumb, if one has no idea how the author of your source obtained that average weight, you shouldn't use it (sources who cite sources are better, but it's usually the best to just give the primary source).
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Post by rock on Jun 17, 2019 22:28:39 GMT 5
Rock, please learn to use better sources! As a rule of thumb, if one has no idea how the author of your source obtained that average weight, you shouldn't use it (sources who cite sources are better, but it's usually the best to just give the primary source). kids.nationalgeographic.com/animals/mammals/lion/the jaguar is still heavier weighing a little bit more .
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Post by creature386 on Jun 17, 2019 23:11:45 GMT 5
That's still a source with no methodology or redirection to a source that has one. And for the record, I don't even want to prove you wrong (neither did dinosauria, for that matter; he was asking you to prove that jaguars average 130 kg). In fact, I even wrote in our profile that lionesses on average weigh 119 - 140 kg (130 is a good mean value): theworldofanimals.proboards.com/thread/52/lion-panthera-leo?page=1It's just that I see a general problem many members seem to have with finding and citing credible sources, not just in this thread.
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Post by rock on Jun 17, 2019 23:29:28 GMT 5
That's still a source with no methodology or redirection to a source that has one. And for the record, I don't even want to prove you wrong (neither did dinosauria, for that matter; he was asking you to prove that jaguars average 130 kg). In fact, I even wrote in our profile that lionesses on average weigh 119 - 140 kg (130 is a good mean value): theworldofanimals.proboards.com/thread/52/lion-panthera-leo?page=1It's just that I see a general problem many members seem to have with finding and citing credible sources, not just in this thread. it is more credible than google , it comes from a science source from people who study big cats.
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Post by creature386 on Jun 17, 2019 23:35:06 GMT 5
With still no methodology whatsoever. I will explain what is the issue in a different thread later.
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