Long Nosed Leopard lizard vs Great Basin Collared lizard

[Venomous Dragon]

Apr 30, 2015 23:35:09 GMT 5 Ceratodromeus said:

This one is close, from what i've seen Leopard lizards can be gnarly, and display saurophagic tendencies. Crotaphytids have impressive jaws for their size as well.

Don't really know who to favor..

Both lizard show saurophagic tendencies.

[Ceratodromeus]

May 1, 2015 1:12:17 GMT 5 Venomous Dragon said:

Apr 30, 2015 23:35:09 GMT 5 Ceratodromeus said:

This one is close, from what i've seen Leopard lizards can be gnarly, and display saurophagic tendencies. Crotaphytids have impressive jaws for their size as well.

Don't really know who to favor..

Both lizard show saurophagic tendencies.

yes, but iirc this is more pronounced in the leopard lizard(which really doesn't make a whole lot of difference either way).

[Venomous Dragon]

May 1, 2015 4:26:09 GMT 5 Ceratodromeus said:

May 1, 2015 1:12:17 GMT 5 Venomous Dragon said:

Both lizard show saurophagic tendencies.

yes, but iirc this is more pronounced in the leopard lizard(which really doesn't make a whole lot of difference either way).

I am aware, I still thought it worth mentioning that the collared lizard shares those tendencies

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The Long-nosed Leopard Lizard is the bigger animal at normal weights and maximum weights, and it is a lizard eating specialist. Normally, I would favour it pretty easily against a smaller lizard than itself.

However, I think that this is a very close match-up.

To start off, let's look at the skulls:



(Long-nosed Leopard Lizard)


(I know this is that of a common collared lizard, but there isn't much difference in morphology other than size towards the Great Basin collared lizard, so I think their skulls are pretty similar)

I think that the leopard lizard has sharper teeth that will certainly do damage, but the collared lizard has a stronger bite and at these rather small sizes I would find strong bites to be pretty effective towards other opponents. In fact, a smaller collared lizard with a higher bite force will be more successful than a larger one while/after fighting. The collared lizard could use it's strong teeth to bite at the probably rather frail skull of the leopard lizard and try to crush it. If the leopard lizard bites hard enough though, it could do some good damage with it's sharp teeth.

Then there is aggression. Leopard lizards have a bit of a reputation for being quite gnarly and will bite, but collared lizards will commonly fight each other during the mating season. They are very aggressive lizards, here is a video that can show that:

youtu.be/10s-ekJK2Vw

I am not sure who is the more agile one for now. The leopard lizard seems more lean, and I would have probably given it the agility advantage before, but collared lizards are quick and agile from what I have read. They are also very quick while attacking, the video above shows that.

As I said above (and as the person above me said), leopard lizards are lizard eating specialists and that will make it tough for a collared lizard, but a collared lizard wouldn't shy away from a fight either. A female long-nosed leopard lizard and a male Great Basin collared lizard would be a very tough fight, but I am slightly leaning towards the leopard lizard. Not only is it a lizard eating specailist, but it also has a small size advantage. The leopard lizard would also be pretty aggressive, as I have read before. I think a male collared lizard against a male leopard lizard would probably win though. A male leopard lizard would eat a female collared lizard, though.

All in all, I think the leopard lizard takes this 6/10.

[Venomous Dragon]

Jan 13, 2016 14:28:26 GMT 5 @somebody said:

The Long-nosed Leopard Lizard is the bigger animal at normal weights and maximum weights, and it is a lizard eating specialist. Normally, I would favour it pretty easily against a smaller lizard than itself.

However, I think that this is a very close match-up.

To start off, let's look at the skulls:



(Long-nosed Leopard Lizard)


(I know this is that of a common collared lizard, but there isn't much difference in morphology other than size towards the Great Basin collared lizard, so I think their skulls are pretty similar)

I think that the leopard lizard has sharper teeth that will certainly do damage, but the collared lizard has a stronger bite and at these rather small sizes I would find strong bites to be pretty effective towards other opponents. In fact, a smaller collared lizard with a higher bite force will be more successful than a larger one while/after fighting. The collared lizard could use it's strong teeth to bite at the probably rather frail skull of the leopard lizard and try to crush it. If the leopard lizard bites hard enough though, it could do some good damage with it's sharp teeth.

Then there is aggression. Leopard lizards have a bit of a reputation for being quite gnarly and will bite, but collared lizards will commonly fight each other during the mating season. They are very aggressive lizards, here is a video that can show that:

youtu.be/10s-ekJK2Vw

I am not sure who is the more agile one for now. The leopard lizard seems more lean, and I would have probably given it the agility advantage before, but collared lizards are quick and agile from what I have read. They are also very quick while attacking, the video above shows that.

As I said above (and as the person above me said), leopard lizards are lizard eating specialists and that will make it tough for a collared lizard, but a collared lizard wouldn't shy away from a fight either. A female long-nosed leopard lizard and a male Great Basin collared lizard would be a very tough fight, but I am slightly leaning towards the leopard lizard. Not only is it a lizard eating specailist, but it also has a small size advantage. The leopard lizard would also be pretty aggressive, as I have read before. I think a male collared lizard against a male leopard lizard would probably win though. A male leopard lizard would eat a female collared lizard, though.

All in all, I think the leopard lizard takes this 6/10.

There is little doubt as to which has a more damaging bite, any difference in tooth sharpness would be negligible and more than overcompensated for by the male collared lizards superior bite, the collared lizard is also less likely to suffer serious skull damage as its skull is quite noticeably more robust.
both lizards are extremely athletic and formidable however i expect a leopard lizard to the stronger of the two combatants even at similar sizes but i feel its typical attack strategy will be less successful against its close relative than it will be against the lizards it feeds on as male collared lizards use similar strategies on each other.
the fight at any rate will be closely contested regardless of the winner, especially when you take into the account the tenacity of these lizards, leopard lizards can and will kill lizards so close to their own size they have no hope of actually eating them (which to me demonstrates a level of innate confidence in their own abilities that borderlines on the dangerous) and collared lizards often maim, disfigure, occasionally dismember and even kill each other in contests.

I have some experience with collared lizards as i once had a male and female, the male i received as an adult who had been previously kept with another male, he was covered in scars and missing toes and the boy who had previously owned him gave him to the local pet store shortly after having bought him (he had been told the lizard was female from the person he bought it from) meaning he was only housed with the other male for a short time.

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Seems pretty even to me. Can creature add polls?

[creature386]

Done

[dinosauria101]

Yeah this one is pretty even