blaze
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Post by blaze on Jan 17, 2014 4:45:02 GMT 5
Damn! I had no idea... but them how colossal squid are prey to sleeper sharks?
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Post by coherentsheaf on Jan 17, 2014 5:19:12 GMT 5
If the shark takes the first bite, the fight would be over quickly. Both of the presumably move quite slowly, but maybe the squid is even slower. I dont know.
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Post by Vodmeister on Jan 17, 2014 22:18:03 GMT 5
If a Sleeper Shark can prey upon a Colossal Squid, then it's hard to see why a much larger and more formidable Saltwater Crocodile could not.
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Post by Runic on Jan 18, 2014 3:25:18 GMT 5
If a Sleeper Shark can prey upon a Colossal Squid, then it's hard to see why a much larger and more formidable Saltwater Crocodile could not. When is a sleeper shark smaller than a croc? |
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Post by creature386 on Jan 18, 2014 14:27:45 GMT 5
Even if it is not smaller, the saltwater crocodile is still more formidable, so Vodmeister's point stands. |
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 18, 2014 18:13:32 GMT 5
Crocodile destroys the Squid
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Post by Runic on Jan 18, 2014 19:25:09 GMT 5
Even if it is not smaller, the saltwater crocodile is still more formidable, so Vodmeister's point stands. That wasn't the point of me quoting him. |
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Post by Vodmeister on Jan 24, 2014 5:45:20 GMT 5
If a Sleeper Shark can prey upon a Colossal Squid, then it's hard to see why a much larger and more formidable Saltwater Crocodile could not. When is a sleeper shark smaller than a croc? The average sleeper shark is 3.65 m (12 feet) long and weighs about 700-800 lbs. The average saltwater crocodile is closer to 4.85 m (16 feet) long and weighs over 1000 lbs. The size difference isn't as great as I initially imagined, but I think that my point still stands. If a sleeper can do it, I don't see why a saltie can't. |
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Post by Runic on Jan 24, 2014 6:41:29 GMT 5
When is a sleeper shark smaller than a croc? The average sleeper shark is 3.65 m (12 feet) long and weighs about 700-800 lbs. The average saltwater crocodile is closer to 4.85 m (16 feet) long and weighs over 1000 lbs. The size difference isn't as great as I initially imagined, but I think that my point still stands. If a sleeper can do it, I don't see why a saltie can't. Huh? Saltwater crocodile do not reach 16ft regularly. |
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Post by Vodmeister on Jan 27, 2014 1:49:14 GMT 5
Old adult males do.
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Post by elosha11 on Feb 15, 2014 7:29:44 GMT 5
^Yes, but a huge old male croc is not the "average" saltie, the average saltie is probably 12-14 feet and maybe 500-600 pounds. That's like saying the "average" great white is 18-20 feet and 5000 pounds. Still, the croc is way more formidable than the colossal squid.
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blaze
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Post by blaze on Feb 15, 2014 8:47:07 GMT 5
Depends on what you mean by "average", if the only requirement is sexual maturity then is not really representative for taxa that do not reach their asymptotic size until much later than sexual maturity. Bull African elephants are adults since being around 2.7m tall at around 25 years old but they do not posses the fully developed male adult physiology until their late 30s early 40s, by that time they also have reached the commonly claimed figure of 3.2m at the shoulder, is the same with male American alligators, they are sexually mature at around 1.8m long and 7 years old but they keep growing until they are around 3.9m long at around 20 years old, this is when their growth stops, this is when they have finally reached their proper adult size. This is also true for male bears, only mature males reach the commonly touted "average" measurements, if you include young adults you end up with adult male polar bears averaging only 1m at the shoulder.
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Post by Vodmeister on Feb 15, 2014 23:53:53 GMT 5
^Yes, but a huge old male croc is not the "average" saltie, the average saltie is probably 12-14 feet and maybe 500-600 pounds. That's like saying the "average" great white is 18-20 feet and 5000 pounds. Still, the croc is way more formidable than the colossal squid. You cannot objectify the average size of an animal which grows its whole life long. |
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Post by theropod on Feb 16, 2014 2:28:25 GMT 5
Firt of all, an animal may grow it’s whole life long, but that does not mean it doesn’t stop growing. At some point, animals die. And most animals, even if they technically never stop growing, do slow down the growth process at some point until it is practically 0.
Even ignoring that, You can still make comparisons of average adult size between animals. This size is then the average size of sexually mature specimens in both, or the average size of specimens having reached a certain stage of maturity.
E.g. it may be difficult to state the exact adult size of a crocodile, but yet you can easily tell which crocodile species is bigger: saltwater crocodiles are bigger than freshwater crocodiles, because mature specimens typically are. Squids also grow with a similar pattern, don’t they?
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Post by Reticulatus on Feb 16, 2014 12:38:49 GMT 5
In waters inhabited by colossal squids a crocodile would be quite slow indeed. Sleeper sharks alternatively are well suited to the frigid deeps.
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