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Post by creature386 on Feb 16, 2014 13:13:26 GMT 5
Welcome Reticulatus!
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Post by Reticulatus on Feb 16, 2014 22:30:12 GMT 5
Thanks, good to be here. I think the battle field is really the only thing that matters in this fight. The colder and deeper the water the scales tip in favor of the squid.
Colossal squid's blood has trouble carrying oxygen in warm temps(warm being a relative term), warm water is also alleged to interfere with the squids buoyance mechanism making it difficult for the cephalopod to return to the depths. The squid would be easy pickings for the crocodile under these conditions, a colossal squid near the surface is a dead squid and a crocodile kind of seals the deal.
On the other hand a crocodile(clearly an insane crocodile) who finds itself in near freezing squid territory is in no position to defend itself from clawed tentacles of the squid regardless of how slow the embrace.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2014 2:10:50 GMT 5
I think that this fight is almost impossible. It's impossible to understand, I think either one of them would die in either one of one opponent's habitat (try saying that 5 times fast  ). But I think that maybe the squid would win if either one of them were to have a habitat where it is warm and cold. BTW welcome Reticulatus. BTW I had that "insert code here" thing by accident when I was going to get a smiley insert code here |
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Post by creature386 on Feb 18, 2014 2:26:52 GMT 5
This was already pointed out on carnivora a few times. There is a reason why this is in hypothetical scenarios. If you are honest, no dinosaur vs mammal match would work because they couldn't exist in the same environment (different bacteria and different atmosphere), so you have to ignore this.
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Post by Reticulatus on Feb 18, 2014 7:35:01 GMT 5
Its a choice, whether you choose to ignore this or not, really. You choose to, I prefer not to. To each their own, I have added my two cents I won't bombard this thread with the facts. I was Cephalopholis on Carnivora once upon a time.
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Post by creature386 on Feb 18, 2014 14:26:42 GMT 5
But then you also shouldn't post in threads which involve a Carboniferus and a modern animal because they couldn't exist in the same atmosphere.
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Post by Reticulatus on Feb 19, 2014 5:01:36 GMT 5
Umm...true...? Are you baiting me or something? I absolutely agree, I will rarely chime in on extinct animal conflicts regardless and then only further my own knowledge on the species involved. I am fully aware of the atmospheric discrepancy and view that type thread with a degree of silliness anyways. If you'd like I could point it out for you every time. Geez I was trying to take the high road here.
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Post by creature386 on Feb 19, 2014 19:51:24 GMT 5
Baiting? The "you" did not refer specially to you Reticulatus, it was more like "when you chose not to do this, you also shouldn't…" (that means it refers to all people who are against such matchups). I was just saying that such threads are very common and when being against one such kind of thread, you should be against the whole section.
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Post by elosha11 on Feb 20, 2014 2:27:10 GMT 5
While everyone should keep environmental factors in mind for these conflicts, the main point is to concentrate on the respective animals' own unique abilities in a conflict. So we sometimes have to put environmental factors on our "mental shelf" to make these hypothetical matchups work. The point is not to deny the existence of such factors, which often preclude any realistic chance of the fight every occurring. However, by focusing on these hypothetical matchups, ideally, we can learn more about the particular animals' characteristics and behavior even in these "test" matchups, which probably have little chance of ever really occurring. In other words, it's educational, if not realistic.
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Post by Grey on Feb 20, 2014 16:54:44 GMT 5
Yes, it is possible to ignore the environmental factors and focus on the animals ability.
It is difficult to make a match up between a grey wolf and a barraccuda because of environmental factors but we can still determine which animal is physically the most powerful and which has the most lethal weaponry. That's not difficult to imagine a saltie and a colossal squid both in a comfortable position.
In that case, from what I've read about the colossal squid, I just don't see it prevailing against a large saltie. They are described as lethargic and this beak, though impressive in absolute terms, is not going to inflict lethal wounds on the exceptionnally robust and durable saltwater. With a skull 70 cm + and a bite force up to 34 000 Newtons, the squid's mantle would quickly get fatal wounds.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 1:47:24 GMT 5
It's pretty easy to know that the Croc would win. 8 - 2, guys.
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Post by creature386 on Apr 9, 2018 21:28:06 GMT 5
Make that 9-2.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 8, 2019 21:46:21 GMT 5
Yeah, this is probably a mismatch in favor of the croc
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2023 4:57:47 GMT 5
^Agreed. Too durable and well-armed.
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