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Post by mechafire on Mar 25, 2014 3:41:12 GMT 5
Overrated:
Liopleurodon - I don't have to give my arguments again, why i think it's extremaly overrated animal, in my list. Some big cats, especially Lion - Due reputation and annoying fanbase thinking they can beat any land animal, even large dinosaurs. Deinosuchus rugosus - The largest crocodylomorph? No. 15 m? Not even close. Largest species of Deinosuchus, likely... no. Honorable mentions: Pitbull, most well known theropods, Gorilla, Grizzly bear, Titanoboa, Ekrixinatosaurus and Great white shark.
Underrated:Most sauropods - Because of theropod fanboys. Size matters, especially if the animal is much bigger. Also don't forgot about tail whip in some sauropods. Hadrosaurs - Even they may not the best defenders, but saying they would be killed by much smaller predators like raptors is dumb. Spinosaurids (except Spinosaurus) - They may be not the best fighters ever, but saying they are weak fish eaters is stupid. They were certainly strong as they need due size advantage against smaller predators in their habitat. Achillobator - One of the most overlooked dromaeosaurids. Maybe smaller and slightly weaker than largest known dromaeosaurid Utahraptor, but people should give it credits rather than vastly overestimate Velociraptor. Spotted Hyena - Cowardly scavengers? The stereotype is as stupid as thinking all Germans are nazists. In reality they are both active predators and scavengers like most carnivores. Honorable mentions: Ceratosaurus, Cheetah, Herrerasaurids, Kelenkenthe tiger is easily much more overrated, I've seen them favored over a elephants, and kodiak bears. I have never seen such fanboyism for the lion. |
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Post by Carcharodon on Mar 25, 2014 3:49:22 GMT 5
Then you must have not seen SuperGuerreroXY yet.
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Post by mechafire on Mar 25, 2014 4:28:28 GMT 5
Then you must have not seen SuperGuerreroXY yet. That's just one guy, tigers get overrated by way more people. |
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Post by Honey Badger on Mar 25, 2014 4:30:49 GMT 5
Taipan thinks that a velociraptor "simply lacks the weaponry" to kill a honey badger, it just made my day lol. People think HBs are unstoppable punching bags since they saw lions finding killing them a challenge. rofl |
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 25, 2014 5:35:13 GMT 5
Then you must have not seen SuperGuerreroXY yet. SuperGuerreroXY is actually a trolling lion hater, a pretender, not an actual lion fan. I would say that wild bovines in general are underrated; some people see them as nothing more but giant walking hamburgers. The only overestimated bovine is the Spanish fighting bull, who's aggression is terribly blown out of proportion. |
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Post by LeopJag on Mar 25, 2014 5:50:02 GMT 5
Most overrated domestic animals:
1 Kangal dog - many actually believe they best every other dog breed in a fight, and some even think that they can beat tigers, elephants and lions...i've seen it!
2 APBT - not quite as overestimated as the kangal in my experience but this breed has its fair share of fanatics as well,, who think it can beat big cats such as cougars and leopards more times than not even when outsized, and also kangals.
and yes, Vod, agree about the Spanish fighting bull...
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Post by Honey Badger on Mar 25, 2014 6:08:31 GMT 5
Small mustelids(which I mean like weasels, minks, stoats)are underestimated a lot.
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Post by Infinity Blade on Mar 25, 2014 6:54:44 GMT 5
"A Spanish fighting bull is extremely aggressive, it wouldn't run away or avoid a fight like a wild bovine".
Reads an account of three fighting bulls apparently individually running from one injured bison.
P.S. To add to the quote about hadrosaurs, I think it practically embodies what many people (of course wrongly) think of them. Defenseless, docile, Cretaceous predator fodder.
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 25, 2014 8:31:17 GMT 5
"A Spanish fighting bull is extremely aggressive, it wouldn't run away or avoid a fight like a wild bovine". Reads an account of three fighting bulls apparently individually running from one injured bison. That had me rolling on the floor. People actually favor "el toro" over a cape buffalo and american bison.  |
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 25, 2014 12:06:04 GMT 5
I have no words... www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=373686&pagenumber=2The bolded one (#5) is by far the dumbest. Worst of all, people genuinely believe this crap.  I will say that generally speaking bears are rated correctly on this forum, but many everyday people believe that a grizzly can kill an animal many times larger than itself with one "hulk-smash" pawswipe. |
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Post by malikc6 on Mar 25, 2014 13:05:13 GMT 5
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Post by Vodmeister on Mar 25, 2014 13:33:44 GMT 5
The strength and power of a gorilla is more fiction than reality. Undoubtedly, gorillas are very strong animals, but movies such as King Kong have severely blown that out of proportion. The facts are obvious - a theropod would demolish a primate, even at parity, and no way the gorilla would have enough strength to hold the T-Rex's jaws open.
Many people need to get a reality check. Animals are not superheroes with absurd powers. Size matters.
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Post by malikc6 on Mar 25, 2014 13:49:54 GMT 5
People in general don't have much knowledge about animals though. I mean people don't study this kind of stuff. They don't know about mentality, they exaggerate strength and size, and believe anything as long as it sounds convincing. People believe that the Siberian tiger is 900 pounds and 13 feet long! You can't blame them though. Some nature programs tell people what they want to here. It's a way to get more people to watch their content. It's exaggerations and propaganda and its all for money.
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Post by theropod on Mar 25, 2014 18:23:45 GMT 5
It is not possible to give a complete, objective list.
Almost every animal is overrated in some places and underrated in others. And whether you rather deem it over or underrated also depends somewhat on your own perception of the animal.
Obviously, there is a number of animals with strong fanbases, and a smaller number with strong haters, but only really extreme, fanboyish bias is worth mentioning, not the typical "this guy always favours taxon A while I favour taxon B". Felinepowah for example is somewhere at the limit in this regard, he has a strong tendency to favour certain animals, often bordering or reaching fanboyism.
I might post a few entertaining quotes on occasion (there a number of youtube discussions I participated in with fanboys that have left me a big collection of them), but I think I wont make a list of animals for now, since its lenght and amount of detail would have to be approaching infinity in order to be somewhat complete and objective.
What I think is easier to say is which animals were at some occasion the most overrated ever. I´d have to give it to one of that "mammal easily murders whole groups of dinosaurs several orders of magnitudes bigger than itself"-stories, but Ill have to have a closer look to see which one wins out in this regard.
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Post by creature386 on Mar 25, 2014 19:49:55 GMT 5
People in general don't have much knowledge about animals though. I mean people don't study this kind of stuff. They don't know about mentality, they exaggerate strength and size, and believe anything as long as it sounds convincing. People believe that the Siberian tiger is 900 pounds and 13 feet long! You can't blame them though. Some nature programs tell people what they want to here. It's a way to get more people to watch their content. It's exaggerations and propaganda and its all for money. In most people, nature programs shouldn't be the problem, rather the depiction of animals in cartoons they watched when they were younger (the time when you are interested in everything and take everything you see as a source). |
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