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Post by theropod on Jun 22, 2013 13:19:51 GMT 5
I would say it is either the spoiler-like Carnotaurus (I jsut hope they correct the inaccuracy of it being slow) or it is a Giganotosaurus.
The plot sounds promising.
But thinking about it, how is it possible mosquitoes were able to suck blood from a marine reptile? Or at least, how probable that it did and then got preserved? The'll have to think about something. maybe mummified leeches lol
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Post by Grey on Jun 22, 2013 13:41:55 GMT 5
I would say it is either the spoiler-like Carnotaurus (I jsut hope they correct the inaccuracy of it being slow) or it is a Giganotosaurus. The plot sounds promising. But thinking about it, how is it possible mosquitoes were able to suck blood from a marine reptile? Or at least, how probable that it did and then got preserved? The'll have to think about something. maybe mummified leeches lol About the marine reptiles, that's a question often wondered by the fans and even heard in JP The Game, where a bulky Tylosaurus was seen. Carnotaurus was slow-moving in the novel because of the lack of knowledge at the time and the fact that this allowed to accentuate its camouflage ability. Or it could something else, they talk about something intelligent. I doubt of a carcharodontosaur, too much T. rex like, they had already favored Spinosaurus for the third movie. |
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Post by theropod on Jun 22, 2013 14:02:02 GMT 5
Carcharodontosaurs are only superifically T. rex-like. If their model-designers are good, they don't make them look like just another T. rex.
I wonder how, Carnotaurus has always been known to have very long legs.
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Post by Grey on Jun 22, 2013 14:44:16 GMT 5
Carcharodontosaurs are only superifically T. rex-like. If their model-designers are good, they don't make them look like just another T. rex. I wonder how, Carnotaurus has always been known to have very long legs. For the audience they are T. rex alike. If not they would have been included since a while in the franchise. The animals have to appealling and distinguished. For the average joe, a carcharodontosaur is a T. rex and shows nothing different than a T. rex, whereas a spinosaur was totally different in its features (arms, crocodilians, semi-aqautic...). For Carnotaurus, artistic licence by Crichton, but a very good one, which could have occured among predatory dinosaurs...perhaps. |
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Post by theropod on Jun 22, 2013 15:19:51 GMT 5
Carcharodontosaurs also have different features. They are not semi aquatic, but have a very different built, longer arms, long, narrow but deep skulls and are more elongate and long in their entire built. It depends on the artist, a good one would not make them look alike at all.
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Post by creature386 on Jun 22, 2013 15:29:36 GMT 5
I don't believe most would look at such features. They may not even know how an accurate T-rex looks.
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Post by Grey on Jun 22, 2013 15:43:39 GMT 5
Carcharodontosaurs also have different features. They are not semi aquatic, but have a very different built, longer arms, long, narrow but deep skulls and are more elongate and long in their entire built. It depends on the artist, a good one would not make them look alike at all. You look at it with your knowledgeabe eyes. For most of the public, this is basically big teeth in big heads on big legs. Carcharodontosaurs and tyrannosaurs are like lions and tigers whereas a spinosaur looked like a bear. They wanted something different. |
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Post by theropod on Jun 22, 2013 16:01:30 GMT 5
Even if they were like lions of tigers (of course jsut an analogy, they are far more different, just like with Spinosaurus and bears), people could differentiate them. and what do you think is the most popular animal fight in the world, also among fanboys and uneducated people? Lion vs Tiger, followed by Spinosaurus vs T. rex (the former is actually very close while that is questionable for the latter). One could give them differently colored skin and feathers to make them more different, which is very likely. You could really make one look like a tiger and one like a lion (T. rex is the better lion-analogue imo)
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Post by creature386 on Jun 22, 2013 16:03:28 GMT 5
Lion vs Tiger, followed by Spinosaurus vs T. rex (the former is actually very close while that is questionable for the latter). You forgot abut bear vs tiger. |
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Post by Grey on Jun 22, 2013 16:19:40 GMT 5
Even if they were like lions of tigers (of course jsut an analogy, they are far more different, just like with Spinosaurus and bears), people could differentiate them. and what do you think is the most popular animal fight in the world, also among fanboys and uneducated people? Lion vs Tiger, followed by Spinosaurus vs T. rex (the former is actually very close while that is questionable for the latter). One could give them differently colored skin and feathers to make them more different, which is very likely. You could really make one look like a tiger and one like a lion (T. rex is the better lion-analogue imo) You forget the main aspect being that something as new as Spinosaurus displayed a very different look than T. rex, very long arm and aquatic tendency. For the audience, the carcharodontosaurs are too much alike. Go show a pic of carcharodontosaur to the average Joe and ask him which dinosaur he thinks it is...you'll don't like the answer. |
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Post by theropod on Jun 22, 2013 16:31:25 GMT 5
Of course, I'm aware the average joe is a moron when it comes to differentiating large theropods (for most there are only two categories, one is "T-rex" and one "SPINO!!!"), but when showing both at the same time, that's a different thing. Besides, JP is also intended to be for dinosaur fans, not just the average person.
A carcharodontosaur would look less different than spinosaurus, but it can still be an interestingly different sight if it is accurately designed and not made to look just the same.
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Post by Grey on Jun 22, 2013 16:38:08 GMT 5
Of course, I'm aware the average joe is a moron when it comes to differentiating large theropods (for most there are only two categories, one is "T-rex" and one "SPINO!!!"), but when showing both at the same time, that's a different thing. Besides, JP is also intended to be for dinosaur fans, not just the average person. A carcharodontosaur would look less different than spinosaurus, but it can still be an interestingly different sight if it is accurately designed and not made to look just the same. JP is intended to be for adventure-movies enthusiasts and dino-likers, but not to be dedicated to them only, at first it has to please to everyone and report a lot of money. No, I doubt we'll ever see a carcharodontosaur in these movies as people will still see as a T. rex. |
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Post by creature386 on Jun 22, 2013 17:46:33 GMT 5
Besides, JP is also intended to be for dinosaur fans, not just the average person. That's true, but today most dinosaur fans only know what some children shows showed them and there the carnivores don't look very different. |
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Post by Grey on Jun 27, 2013 2:29:22 GMT 5
Hello JPLegacy! I am a long time lurker and a brand new member in this awesome Jurassic Park community. I have followed this community for years as a huge fan of Jurassic Park, and recently decided to join. Why now? Because Jurassic Park 4 is right around the corner, and thanks to my unique position involved in the film industry I am able to lift the curtain and allow fans a peak at whats to come. Now, you may wonder why I choose Jurassic Park Legacy, and not some big news site- Im not trying to make a name for myself, or blow the lid off the production. IÂ’m simply a longtime fan of the franchise, long time lurker in this community and I want to see this community thrive. Besides, Jurassic Park fans deserve more peaks behind the scenes.
Now, where to start...
The Facts:
-Jurassic Park 4 was set on Isla Nublar. I say “was” as I cannot be sure if that will change as the script undergoes rewrites, but I’m nearly certain it will remain on Nublar.
-The story did revolve around an open, operating park. Once again, things may change but I donÂ’t think so.
-Marine Reptiles are in.
-Tamed Dinosaurs did play a role.
-New, fresh cast of characters.
-Bryce Dallas Howard and David Oyelowo were frontrunners.
-Some would consider the story a “Soft Reboot”. Don’t grab your torches and pitchforks, its still an in canon sequel. Its just meant to be a fresh start.
-The working title was "Ebb Tide"
-Filming first on location at Hawaii and second on set at Baton Rouge
-Many original iconic locations from Jurassic Park are reserved throughout the islands.
--About a dozen sets were being prepped and pre-fabbed
-Legacy effects are working on the Dinosaurs
The Production:
Jurassic Park is a big franchise for Universal, and thus Universal wants to make the film as big of a success as possible. JP4 is meant to be a new start for the franchise, to make JP and current and popular household name again. Universal needs large, popular franchises to combat the explosion of big budget franchises that other studios are thriving off of, and Jurassic Park is the answer. As such, Universal is putting a huge investment into JP4, but this comes at a price. From the start, Universal has intervened in the writing process aiming for a more epic film that will theoretically bring in higher profits. While this may sound like it isnÂ’t a bad thing, it is as it interferes in the writers and directors creative vision. Universal, with their meddling and arbitrary deadline, caused the script to be rushed and apparently insufficient. But the script was still fairly solid and it was Greenlit, it was only when Steven Spielberg stepped in that the delay occurred. Steven was not happy with the script, its vision was incomplete due to Universals actions. As such, the delay occurred much to the surprise of Colin and crew which led to the entire crew being let go on the spot. This certainly caused everyone to feel shaken and deflated, Colin included. Ultimately it may work out better for the movie as it gives Colin more time to write and flesh out his vision. That said, Universal still have their demands for the scope of the film, Spielberg has his own ideas and Colin of course has his. There are too many cooks in the kitchen. Hopefully Universal and Spielberg will allow for Colin to let his vision thrive and allow him to work on the film without too much interference. Sadly, this is very common when new directors are attached to big projects, and the interference usually causes a film to fall short of its potential. Its hard to say what direction the writing process is going now, but I assume it will stay fairly true to the direction pre-delay, and it is likely the majority of the crews work will be viable and usable allowing for production to restart rather efficiently. That said, it will need to take the time to reassemble the crew as everyone was let go, which is a given with such a large delay.
So, where does this leave us? With a lot of “what if’s”. I will, in the future, provide more information and clarity as it comes. Hopefully the script writing process works out sooner rather than later, and production and resume soon. I have been pretty busy, so this was unfortunately fairly rushed. I may have missed some bits of information, so if you have questions be sure to to ask them in the forums!
-The Dinosaur Whisperer
www.jplegacy.org/
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Post by creature386 on Jun 27, 2013 13:01:33 GMT 5
So they are working at something really big, at a new legend. Good luck.
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