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Post by creature386 on Jun 6, 2013 20:26:50 GMT 5
This is off topic I know, but I am quite sure the global crisis will also affect the rich nations as their big and highly developed cities are close to the ocean, therefore rising sea levels would kill them. I saw a documentary who said in 100 years, most of them will be flooded. It also said the sea level might rise as high, as it could flood small countries, like Denmark or the Netherlands. Most of the UK was also flooded in their model.
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Post by coherentsheaf on Jun 6, 2013 22:15:57 GMT 5
This is off topic I know, but I am quite sure the global crisis will also affect the rich nations as their big and highly developed cities are close to the ocean, therefore rising sea levels would kill them. I saw a documentary who said in 100 years, most of them will be flooded. It also said the sea level might rise as high, as it could flood small countries, like Denmark or the Netherlands. Most of the UK was also flooded in their model. I think that easy reactios like building dams would not prevent this from being dangerous to our infrastructure.
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Post by theropod on Jun 6, 2013 23:50:43 GMT 5
This is off topic I know, but I am quite sure the global crisis will also affect the rich nations as their big and highly developed cities are close to the ocean, therefore rising sea levels would kill them. I saw a documentary who said in 100 years, most of them will be flooded. It also said the sea level might rise as high, as it could flood small countries, like Denmark or the Netherlands. Most of the UK was also flooded in their model. lol in nearly every cabaret you can hear someone soting how the netherlands will soon be part of the ocean!
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Post by Runic on Jun 13, 2013 6:54:21 GMT 5
Ok so if we were born just to die and vanish from existence, why bother existing then?
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 13, 2013 8:44:54 GMT 5
Ok so if we were born just to die and vanish from existence, why bother existing then? silly you dont have a choice on whether or not you get to exist and there really is no reason for existance it just is and at the end of the day nothing you or I do will ever matter anyway so why worry about it? Live your life the way you want to because at the end of the day were all worm food.
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Post by Supercommunist on Jun 13, 2013 10:07:38 GMT 5
Whats the point of eating a sandwich if you can't eat it forever?
Whats the point of being physically fit when your health will deteriorate when you grow older anyway?
Whats the point of talking to others when you are likely to soon forget what you have discussed with them?
Whats the the point of posting on this forum when it will eventually be shut down or abandoned?
Humans should be able to carve out and choose their own purpose for living rather than letting some invisible deity/deities that may or may not exist, dictate it for them.
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Post by Runic on Jun 13, 2013 22:32:39 GMT 5
Whats the point of eating a sandwich if you can't eat it forever? Whats the point of being physically fit when your health will deteriorate when you grow older anyway? Whats the point of talking to others when you are likely to soon forget what you have discussed with them? Whats the the point of posting on this forum when it will eventually be shut down or abandoned? Humans should be able to carve out and choose their own purpose for living rather than letting some invisible deity/deities that may or may not exist, dictate it for them. If you weren't alive to begin with then you wouldn't care about existing or that sandwich now would you?
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Post by Runic on Jun 13, 2013 22:34:41 GMT 5
Ok so if we were born just to die and vanish from existence, why bother existing then? silly you dont have a choice on whether or not you get to exist and there really is no reason for existance it just is and at the end of the day nothing you or I do will ever matter anyway so why worry about it? Live your life the way you want to because at the end of the day were all worm food. Silly you didn't understand my question! If you were born just to die and vanish from existence. Why bother living and following laws if in the end when you die you won't exist to remember or feel guilt now would you?
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Post by Vodmeister on Jun 13, 2013 23:13:21 GMT 5
Black Ice, you are beginning to use strawman arguments, like William Lane Craig.
Simply because something does not last forever does not mean that it doesn't have a purpose.
If you were to realize today that there is no heaven nor hell, and you simply rot into the ground after death, would you stop living life because you'd feel purposeless? Of course not.
Great comment.
I do believe that there is likely an original creator who made the universe, but I do not believe in souls or afterlife, and I am highly against religion. Religion forces someone to live in the ways and command of an invincible force, I believe that you should live your own life and make your own purpose.
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Post by Vodmeister on Jun 13, 2013 23:15:45 GMT 5
silly you dont have a choice on whether or not you get to exist and there really is no reason for existance it just is and at the end of the day nothing you or I do will ever matter anyway so why worry about it? Live your life the way you want to because at the end of the day were all worm food. Silly you didn't understand my question! If you were born just to die and vanish from existence. Why bother living and following laws if in the end when you die you won't exist to remember or feel guilt now would you? If you were to realize today that there is no heaven, hell or soul; would you suddenly begin committing crimes, breaking laws, raping children and murdering people? Of course you wouldn't, because it would ruin your life, which you only live once. You seem to act as if it is so unthinkable that everything eventually ends.
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Post by Vodmeister on Jun 13, 2013 23:21:39 GMT 5
If the afterlife in heaven is eternal, then what does God see as the purpose of life on Earth? Why would God make humans mortal, materialistic creatures for 70-80 years, if we are all going to live an eternity in the afterlife anyway. What's the point?
You could keep asking yourself "what's the point", but that would be pointless, life is here to enjoy it, not question it.
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Post by creature386 on Jun 13, 2013 23:36:42 GMT 5
Religion forces someone to live in the ways and command of an invincible force That depends on how strictly religious some are. Many people only bring some religious laws/elements in their life.
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Post by Supercommunist on Jun 14, 2013 0:00:43 GMT 5
I personally cannot imagine one as I highly doubt that any sentient creature would be able to retain its sanity after it had spent eons dwelling in nothingness.
Religion has done much good though, I am sure that religions such as Christianity has deterred a large amount of scumbags from committing acts of cruelty out of fear of divine retribution. So long as religion does not slow down technological progress and the like I am competently fine with it.
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Post by theropod on Jun 14, 2013 0:08:00 GMT 5
I think that the reunion of a human body with the natural circuit after death is enough of an afterlife, no reason to come up with some sort of heaven or hades. How you will exist is an entirely different question, but if, then as a part of nature that will continue to exist, not in some isolated place as some sort of "disposable soul"
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Post by Supercommunist on Jun 14, 2013 0:16:35 GMT 5
One must wonder whether an eternal afterlife would be desirable at all. In a world with no struggle or hardships we wouldn't have any incentive to do anything. While that may seem great at first eventually once you lived several millenniums doing nothing but eating, sleeping, and things of that nature, living may start to become unbearably monotonous.
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