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Post by Runic on Jun 3, 2013 22:56:04 GMT 5
Yes, but 20 lb is the average for bobcats, while it seems to be the upper average for harpy eagles. No. Harpy eagle female commonly reach 20lbs while males weigh about half as much. That pic of the I showed earlier was a 20lb female harpy. |
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Post by DinosaurMichael on Jun 3, 2013 23:09:26 GMT 5
Man are Eagles overrated or what? What are you talking about? Please don't bring this whole overrated stuff here. Let that stay with carnivora Okay. |
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Post by coherentsheaf on Jun 4, 2013 2:19:12 GMT 5
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Post by Runic on Jun 4, 2013 2:29:52 GMT 5
That.......was....... AWESOME! You'd expect those kind of reflexes and agility from a cat! |
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Post by theropod on Jun 4, 2013 17:13:34 GMT 5
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Post by Weasel on Apr 21, 2014 8:31:44 GMT 5
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Post by Weasel on Apr 21, 2014 8:46:23 GMT 5
Unless the eagle is going to ambush the cat I'd say bobcat wins 55/45
btw posting 10 pictures of eagles killing animals that a bobcat can easily kill does not really help the eagle that much.
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Post by Runic on Apr 21, 2014 9:13:19 GMT 5
Unless the eagle is going to ambush the cat I'd say bobcat wins 55/45 btw posting 10 pictures of eagles killing animals that a bobcat can easily kill does not really help the eagle that much. What! ? The whole point of that picture collage was to show eagles can fight on the ground. Wtf are you talking about? |
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Post by Weasel on Apr 21, 2014 9:27:04 GMT 5
Unless the eagle is going to ambush the cat I'd say bobcat wins 55/45 btw posting 10 pictures of eagles killing animals that a bobcat can easily kill does not really help the eagle that much. What! ? The whole point of that picture collage was to show eagles can fight on the ground. Wtf are you talking about? If the eagle is going to is not going to get a ambush the bobcat will win 55/45 the eagle can fight on the ground but I.M.O cats are much better fighters when it comes to fighting on the ground. |
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Post by coherentsheaf on Apr 21, 2014 15:02:25 GMT 5
What! ? The whole point of that picture collage was to show eagles can fight on the ground. Wtf are you talking about? If the eagle is going to is not going to get a ambush the bobcat will win 55/45 the eagle can fight on the ground but I.M.O cats are much better fighters when it comes to fighting on the ground. Afaik most accouts of eagles vs cats of similar mass have the eagle winning. |
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Post by pckts on Apr 22, 2014 0:01:02 GMT 5
SMaller Bobcat makes attempt at a larger golden eagle www.youtube.com/watch?v=VegwG4QKdNAThis 10 lb bobcat killed 3 turkeys before attacking this owl. Apparently the owl was able to escape this time www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgt0ppxXK9MCougar kills eagle who is trapped www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci9OYK9aR50Looks like I will definitely go with the Bobcat at weight parity and especially if the cat has a slight weight advantage. The flying of the eagle would allow it to dictate when the first attack happens, but once it attacks that now means it is in a fight with a animal that is nothing like a hare, even when its talons are on the cat the cat is still able to claw, bite and roll around much more ferociously than any other animal it preys upon. And then once the fight has hit the ground, the cat will have all the advantages in my book, and even if the first initial scuffle goes down, the eagle will have to get off the ground and back in to the air to try another attack because fighting a cat on ground level will be a bad move. |
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Post by pckts on Apr 22, 2014 0:10:48 GMT 5
If the eagle is going to is not going to get a ambush the bobcat will win 55/45 the eagle can fight on the ground but I.M.O cats are much better fighters when it comes to fighting on the ground. Afaik most accouts of eagles vs cats of similar mass have the eagle winning. Would love to see any accounts of this. In fact, there are no accounts I can find of a eagle preying on any cat at weight parity. I have now seen multiple vids of bobcats making attempts at eagles and other birds though. |
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Post by pckts on Apr 22, 2014 0:18:35 GMT 5
Afaik most accouts of eagles vs cats of similar mass have the eagle winning. Would love to see any accounts of this. In fact, there are no accounts I can find of a eagle preying on any cat at weight parity. I have now seen multiple vids of bobcats making attempts at eagles and other birds though.  Caracal Kills Steppe Eagle.  Wolverine Kills Golden eagle. There was also one more incident of a golden eagle who took a wild cat but it was discovered disemboweled and thought that it was the workings of the the attempted prey. Much like this story of the wolverine vs eagle. I didn't post it because it had no source so I don't want to use something that may not be valid. |
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Post by Supercommunist on Apr 22, 2014 0:21:06 GMT 5
Bird of prey killing a roughly equal sized serval.  Runic will probably post similar accounts soon. That being said I'd favor the bobcat. |
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Post by Supercommunist on Apr 22, 2014 0:30:59 GMT 5
Not too relevant to the discussion but this is an intresting vid.
The videos title implies this fight took place over a decent period of time, so it seems likely the more powerful harpy eagle would at the very least give the bobcat a run for its money.
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