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Post by dinosauria101 on May 11, 2019 17:11:56 GMT 5
But not in appearance, or even jaw behavior. in jaw behavior they are almost exactly the same . No, pygmy hippos bite hard and use tusk puncturing, while American alligators bite pieces off with sheer force. Moreover, the different appearance of the pygmy hippo REALLY won't help the mountain lion's lack of experience |
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Post by rock on May 11, 2019 17:15:37 GMT 5
in jaw behavior they are almost exactly the same . No, pygmy hippos bite hard and use tusk puncturing, while American alligators bite pieces off with sheer force. Moreover, the different appearance of the pygmy hippo REALLY won't help the mountain lion's lack of experience it is simlair enough and i do not think that the hippos apperance would make it any more diff for a cougar to fight him . i can aruge a cougars apperance being diffrent from a leopard could make it more diffcult for a hippo to fight him. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 11, 2019 17:18:54 GMT 5
No, pygmy hippos bite hard and use tusk puncturing, while American alligators bite pieces off with sheer force. Moreover, the different appearance of the pygmy hippo REALLY won't help the mountain lion's lack of experience it is simlair enough and i do not think that the hippos apperance would make it any more diff for a cougar to fight him . i can aruge a cougars apperance being diffrent from a leopard could make it more diffcult for a hippo to fight him. Mountain lions also look similar to lionesses which the pygmy hippo also deals with, so I don't think that'd be an issue And how are the hippo and alligator similar? It's almost night and day!   |
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Post by rock on May 11, 2019 17:28:16 GMT 5
it is simlair enough and i do not think that the hippos apperance would make it any more diff for a cougar to fight him . i can aruge a cougars apperance being diffrent from a leopard could make it more diffcult for a hippo to fight him. Mountain lions also look similar to lionesses which the pygmy hippo also deals with, so I don't think that'd be an issue And how are the hippo and alligator similar? It's almost night and day! give me proof that pygmy hippos deal with leopards and lions. also yes cougars and lioness fight and look simlair |
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 11, 2019 17:33:12 GMT 5
We can find out by range alone (few interactions are known due to hard to access habitat, but we've seen evidence of predation) Lion range  Leopard range  Pygmy hippo range ![Air Freshener]() |
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Post by rock on May 11, 2019 18:03:21 GMT 5
We can find out by range alone (few interactions are known due to hard to access habitat, but we've seen evidence of predation) Lion range Leopard range Pygmy hippo range ![Air Freshener]() i am not doubting that they interact just show me a picture or video of them interacting |
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 11, 2019 18:04:56 GMT 5
We can find out by range alone (few interactions are known due to hard to access habitat, but we've seen evidence of predation) Lion range Leopard range Pygmy hippo range ![Air Freshener]() i am not doubting that they interact just show me a picture or video of them interacting I'm afraid I can't. The hippo's habitat is very remote and doesn't really allow for such |
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Post by rock on May 11, 2019 18:16:47 GMT 5
i am not doubting that they interact just show me a picture or video of them interacting I'm afraid I can't. The hippo's habitat is very remote and doesn't really allow for such then no offense but their is no evidance to back up your claim |
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 11, 2019 18:19:19 GMT 5
I'm afraid I can't. The hippo's habitat is very remote and doesn't really allow for such then no offense but their is no evidance to back up your claim There is. We've seen the aftermath of attacks on both parties (injuries on both from the other), as well as hippo remains in scats. But the habitat is a bit too remote to videotape |
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Post by rock on May 11, 2019 18:22:43 GMT 5
then no offense but their is no evidance to back up your claim There is. We've seen the aftermath of attacks on both parties (injuries on both from the other), as well as hippo remains in scats. But the habitat is a bit too remote to videotape those were likley baby hippos and if so show me your link |
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 11, 2019 18:23:52 GMT 5
There is. We've seen the aftermath of attacks on both parties (injuries on both from the other), as well as hippo remains in scats. But the habitat is a bit too remote to videotape those were likley baby hippos and if so show me your link I think I've seen the accounts in a biology article on Google Scholar. As soon as I find it I'll post it Edit: this PDF states the proof, as well as that the hippos deliberately avoid leopards to stay safe ibream.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Final_Msc_Thesis_Henk_Eshuis.pdf |
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Post by rock on May 11, 2019 18:43:36 GMT 5
this debunks your own point because if a smaller leopard can take down a pygmy hippo a larger cougar can surley do it |
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 11, 2019 18:48:50 GMT 5
this debunks your own point because if a smaller leopard can take down a pygmy hippo a larger cougar can surley do it Yes they can do it. By AMBUSH. Leopards can also take down eland over 10 times their size via ambush, something they have no chance of doing face to face. My only point was to illustrate that interactions exist. The hippos are avoiding the leopards because they do not want to be ambushed. |
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Post by rock on May 11, 2019 18:58:29 GMT 5
this debunks your own point because if a smaller leopard can take down a pygmy hippo a larger cougar can surley do it Yes they can do it. By AMBUSH. Leopards can also take down eland over 10 times their size via ambush, something they have no chance of doing face to face. My only point was to illustrate that interactions exist. The hippos are avoiding the leopards because they do not want to be ambushed. any proof they cannot do it face to face? leopards are known to kill crocodiles and gorillas.   |
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Post by dinosauria101 on May 11, 2019 19:00:35 GMT 5
Yes they can do it. By AMBUSH. Leopards can also take down eland over 10 times their size via ambush, something they have no chance of doing face to face. My only point was to illustrate that interactions exist. The hippos are avoiding the leopards because they do not want to be ambushed. any proof they cannot do it face to face? leopards are known to kill crocodiles and gorillas. 1: Do they kill crocodiles over 3 times their size that are healthy and willing to fight back? Unless they do, that is a bad analogy 2: A gorilla has next to no chance against a leopard at parity, while a pygmy hippo has a good chance. Don't think I need to say why |
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