Post by mountainlord on Oct 31, 2019 8:24:46 GMT 5
Pablo, you are a joke! I'm posting statements and accounts from undisputed Russian authorities like S.P. Kucherenko and Russian biologist Timofei Bazhenov, and all you can do is quote Peter! LOOOOOLLL.....Thats how desperate you are. You have practically NO EVIDENCE that backs your precious Brown bears in the wild, so all you can desperately resort to is twisting Peters statements and posting his opinions. How sad and pathetic.
Let me ask you one simple question....
Peter makes ALOT of claims, but why does he never post the evidence or accounts that back his claims?? He just rambles and rambles without posting a shred of evidence to back his claims. He never posts the actual evidence, even when you challenge him.
So who's right then, Russian experts like S.P. Kucherenko, Rukovsky and Timofei Bazhenov, or a forum poster like Peter?? LMAO....
You blatantly outright LIED and twisted the words of Russian biologist; Timofei Bazhenov, when he clearly stated that AS A RULE, the tiger wins a fight against a Brown bear. Nowhere did he ever state anything about "ambushes", not once. He clearly said when the tiger MEETS, and I repeat....MEETS the Brown bear in the taiga. And he said, as a rule, the tiger wins. That blatantly means that in general, the tiger defeats the Brown bear in a fight. That absolutely has nothing to do with ambushes at all. You just made that shit up because you can't handle the fact that most Russian authorities/experts all favour the tiger.
Now, to expose you even further....
I posted this account from GOROKHOV 1973, where a tiger killed a Brown bear after a 20 minute battle:
On your embarrassing thread you made, which you claimed "exposed" my accounts - you said that this was the account about the tiger "Dale" that killed a large adult female Brown bear after a 20 minute battle. Either your blind or you deliberately lied again. This account was from 1973!!
Dale killed those bears in 1997, more than TWO DECADES after that Gorokhov account! LOOOOOOLLLL.......
Here's the account about Dale (M20) - It also mentions another case of another tiger that killed a 200kg Brown bear in a fight too:
Thats THREE SEPARATE ACCOUNTS from different time periods. 1973, 1997 and 2001. And you said the 1973 account was about Dale. Shame on you. You haven't got a clue what your on about. You got exposed!
Dale killed TWO large adult female Brown bears in fights. Another tiger killed a 200kg Brown bear in a fight. And Gorokhov 1973 reported another case where a tiger killed another Brown bear (Possibly adult male) after a 20 minute battle. So thats FOUR adult Brown bears killed in fights against tigers. Get your facts right because you'll only keep exposing yourself.
Here, I made a thread debunking and exposing your lies and blatant deceit:
www.tapatalk.com/groups/animalfightclub/pablo1111-the-biggest-liar-exposed-t124.html#p2294
Stay tuned, I'm not finished with it. I'm gonna debunk and expose more of your lies and ridiculous accounts in the coming days.
Now lets see what your hero and god, Peter has to say....
Peter said that aggressive male Brown bears didn't always prevail in fights against tigers. Even in fight statistics where Brown bears started more fights, they still lost more often than not against tigers. So what does that show you?? looool....
I challenged you repeatedly to show me just one single fight statistic reported by Russian experts, that favour the Brown bear, and you can't show me anything, zilch. Because all the fight statistics consistently show that tigers WIN MOST FIGHTS against Brown bears, period.
You cherry-pick info from Sysoev. LOL...Well, I showed much better accounts from S.P. Kucherenko, Rukovsky and Timofei Bazhenov, who all basically stated the tiger was superior in a fight.
I also posted fight statistics from Russian biologist, Rukovsky, who reported ELEVEN Brown bears killed by tigers in fights, and only two tigers killed. The tiger completely dominated the Brown bear in those statistics. Rukovsky even stated that when large tigers and large Brown bears fight, only in RARE cases the tiger loses. Now what does that show you??...
Your a joke. Even when I show you numerous fight statistics which blatantly show tigers dominating and whooping Brown bears in fights far more often than not, you still make up blatant, bold-faced LIES, and claim their were "ambushes", when the accounts clearly mention the words "CLASH" or "COLLISIONS" and "FIGHTS".
Honestly, your a pathological liar, and everyone, even on "Domain of Bears forum" knows you hate tigers with an extreme passion, and wish they go extinct. You know very well that you have barely any evidence from Russian biologists/experts...so you desperately spam Peters posts, who's FAR FROM AN ACTUAL EXPERT, and just another forum poster. Its ridiculous.
And in which fantasy world is Peter the "most knowledgeable Tigerfan"?? LOL...Who gave him that title??
You have absolutely no real evidence to refute my accounts, period. And you know it. Thats exactly why you desperately resort to posting old, unreliable captive accounts and opinions from fraudsters like Clyde Beatty. LMAO!! Its pathetic. My evidence is far superior to yours anytime.
MOUNTAIN LORDS EVIDENCE:
1) Fight statistics, accounts and testimonies from undisputed Russian authorities and biologists. - You know, the REAL experts!
PABLO'S AKA KODIAK'S EVIDENCE:
1) Blatant lies and opinions from controversial circus showmen like Clyde Beatty.
2) Peters posts, who's nowhere near an expert. Who's also just another forum poster and debater. How sad and pathetic.
3) Twisting the statements of the experts.
4) Unreliable captive accounts.
You see the BIG difference between you and me? The tiger side has FAR SUPERIOR evidence.
And why are you mentioning Cooper for? He doesn't know shit about this debate, whatsoever. He himself said that he doesn't care about the Bear vs Tiger debate. He just focuses on the Lion vs Tiger debate.
But it doesn't surprise me anyway, its just another sad and desperate attempt by you, as always.
Let me ask you one simple question....
Peter makes ALOT of claims, but why does he never post the evidence or accounts that back his claims?? He just rambles and rambles without posting a shred of evidence to back his claims. He never posts the actual evidence, even when you challenge him.
So who's right then, Russian experts like S.P. Kucherenko, Rukovsky and Timofei Bazhenov, or a forum poster like Peter?? LMAO....
You blatantly outright LIED and twisted the words of Russian biologist; Timofei Bazhenov, when he clearly stated that AS A RULE, the tiger wins a fight against a Brown bear. Nowhere did he ever state anything about "ambushes", not once. He clearly said when the tiger MEETS, and I repeat....MEETS the Brown bear in the taiga. And he said, as a rule, the tiger wins. That blatantly means that in general, the tiger defeats the Brown bear in a fight. That absolutely has nothing to do with ambushes at all. You just made that shit up because you can't handle the fact that most Russian authorities/experts all favour the tiger.
Now, to expose you even further....
I posted this account from GOROKHOV 1973, where a tiger killed a Brown bear after a 20 minute battle:
On your embarrassing thread you made, which you claimed "exposed" my accounts - you said that this was the account about the tiger "Dale" that killed a large adult female Brown bear after a 20 minute battle. Either your blind or you deliberately lied again. This account was from 1973!!
Dale killed those bears in 1997, more than TWO DECADES after that Gorokhov account! LOOOOOOLLLL.......
Here's the account about Dale (M20) - It also mentions another case of another tiger that killed a 200kg Brown bear in a fight too:
Thats THREE SEPARATE ACCOUNTS from different time periods. 1973, 1997 and 2001. And you said the 1973 account was about Dale. Shame on you. You haven't got a clue what your on about. You got exposed!
Dale killed TWO large adult female Brown bears in fights. Another tiger killed a 200kg Brown bear in a fight. And Gorokhov 1973 reported another case where a tiger killed another Brown bear (Possibly adult male) after a 20 minute battle. So thats FOUR adult Brown bears killed in fights against tigers. Get your facts right because you'll only keep exposing yourself.
Here, I made a thread debunking and exposing your lies and blatant deceit:
www.tapatalk.com/groups/animalfightclub/pablo1111-the-biggest-liar-exposed-t124.html#p2294
Stay tuned, I'm not finished with it. I'm gonna debunk and expose more of your lies and ridiculous accounts in the coming days.
Now lets see what your hero and god, Peter has to say....
Peter wrote:
"It may also prove to be unwise, as both Kostoglod and Kucherenko stated that most fights were started by bears. Assuming that these were, more often than not, males, it is remarkable that the number of aggressive bears they mentioned in their study is quite a bit higher than the number of dead tigers, which suggests that aggressive male bears do not always prevail in a fight."
www.tapatalk.com/groups/animalsversesanimals/male-brown-bears-are-not-out-of-of-the-predatory-r-t1991-s60.html
"It may also prove to be unwise, as both Kostoglod and Kucherenko stated that most fights were started by bears. Assuming that these were, more often than not, males, it is remarkable that the number of aggressive bears they mentioned in their study is quite a bit higher than the number of dead tigers, which suggests that aggressive male bears do not always prevail in a fight."
www.tapatalk.com/groups/animalsversesanimals/male-brown-bears-are-not-out-of-of-the-predatory-r-t1991-s60.html
Peter said that aggressive male Brown bears didn't always prevail in fights against tigers. Even in fight statistics where Brown bears started more fights, they still lost more often than not against tigers. So what does that show you?? looool....
I challenged you repeatedly to show me just one single fight statistic reported by Russian experts, that favour the Brown bear, and you can't show me anything, zilch. Because all the fight statistics consistently show that tigers WIN MOST FIGHTS against Brown bears, period.
You cherry-pick info from Sysoev. LOL...Well, I showed much better accounts from S.P. Kucherenko, Rukovsky and Timofei Bazhenov, who all basically stated the tiger was superior in a fight.
I also posted fight statistics from Russian biologist, Rukovsky, who reported ELEVEN Brown bears killed by tigers in fights, and only two tigers killed. The tiger completely dominated the Brown bear in those statistics. Rukovsky even stated that when large tigers and large Brown bears fight, only in RARE cases the tiger loses. Now what does that show you??...
Your a joke. Even when I show you numerous fight statistics which blatantly show tigers dominating and whooping Brown bears in fights far more often than not, you still make up blatant, bold-faced LIES, and claim their were "ambushes", when the accounts clearly mention the words "CLASH" or "COLLISIONS" and "FIGHTS".
Honestly, your a pathological liar, and everyone, even on "Domain of Bears forum" knows you hate tigers with an extreme passion, and wish they go extinct. You know very well that you have barely any evidence from Russian biologists/experts...so you desperately spam Peters posts, who's FAR FROM AN ACTUAL EXPERT, and just another forum poster. Its ridiculous.
And in which fantasy world is Peter the "most knowledgeable Tigerfan"?? LOL...Who gave him that title??
You have absolutely no real evidence to refute my accounts, period. And you know it. Thats exactly why you desperately resort to posting old, unreliable captive accounts and opinions from fraudsters like Clyde Beatty. LMAO!! Its pathetic. My evidence is far superior to yours anytime.
MOUNTAIN LORDS EVIDENCE:
1) Fight statistics, accounts and testimonies from undisputed Russian authorities and biologists. - You know, the REAL experts!
PABLO'S AKA KODIAK'S EVIDENCE:
1) Blatant lies and opinions from controversial circus showmen like Clyde Beatty.
2) Peters posts, who's nowhere near an expert. Who's also just another forum poster and debater. How sad and pathetic.
3) Twisting the statements of the experts.
4) Unreliable captive accounts.
You see the BIG difference between you and me? The tiger side has FAR SUPERIOR evidence.
And why are you mentioning Cooper for? He doesn't know shit about this debate, whatsoever. He himself said that he doesn't care about the Bear vs Tiger debate. He just focuses on the Lion vs Tiger debate.
But it doesn't surprise me anyway, its just another sad and desperate attempt by you, as always.
