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Post by smedz on Jan 1, 2020 1:23:52 GMT 5
Smedz...( quote ): You keep saying a tiger is only willing to attack a sloth bear when its back turned, think of Broken Tail's encounter with a bear. He stalked the bear even though it was facing sideways from him. The point of posting that video was to show a tigress going head to head with a sloth bear, more specifically one with cubs. When the bear stopped she stopped in case she would have to deliver some blows. When the bear ran she ran because she wanted to make sure the bear got far enough away from her cubs. She was not looking to kill the bear. Who is broken Tail? ...on the video. He never went face-to-face with the bear. Yes, he stalked the bear when he was sideways to the tiger - your point? As for the tiger charging and attacking the men on the elephant... who knows what was on the tigers mind? The elephant was sideways to the tiger - unthreatening. As for the people in the box - not likely the tiger even knew what they were. Cougars used to attack people on horseback that would never ambush a man on foot. But, cougars were notorious horse killers; so it was concluded that to the cougar, a rider is just part of the horse. Broken tail is the tiger with a messed up tail in the video you speak of. My point was that a tigers don't always attack bears from behind. No cougar is going to charge at people riding an elephant unlike that tiger. Here's another thing on the tigers courage.  A cougar or leopard will do what this tiger did as they simply aren't able to. |
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Post by brobear on Jan 1, 2020 1:33:00 GMT 5
Broken tail is the tiger with a messed up tail in the video you speak of. My point was that a tigers don't always attack bears from behind. No cougar is going to charge at people riding an elephant unlike that tiger. Here's another thing on the tigers courage.
An ambush is an ambush, from behind or to the side - an unexpected attack. Each time a sloth bear faces a tiger, the tiger stops dead-in-its-tracks.
As for the attack on the people - in the box - on the elephant, there is just no telling what this tiger was thinking. Perhaps panic? We don't know the whole story. But remember, no man wearing a face-mask on the back of his head has yet to be killed by a tiger.
Oh, and tigers kill horse and will attack riders on horseback. ( cougar is less than half the size of a tiger ).
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Post by brobear on Jan 1, 2020 1:41:44 GMT 5
OK, this will be my last post - at least for a length of time. A tiger is unwilling to fight a sloth bear ( half his size ) face-to-face. But yet the boys here believe that this same big cat is willing to go toe-to-toe with a grizzly which is heavier than the tiger. Not only ( perhaps ) triple the sloth bear's weight, but the grizzly is pound-for-pound much stronger and more durable than the sloth bear.
The mature male grizzly is not on the tigers menu. No tiger, regardless of age, sex, size, or subspecies is going to defend a carcass from a mature male grizzly. It's just like if you have a house cat who is unwilling to face a Cocker Spaniel but you want to argue that he will fight a Rottweiler. Absurd.
*Fact: there remains no reliable record of a tiger ever killing an adult male brown bear under any circumstances.  Enjoy your day. It is a huge waste of time arguing with those in denial of the truth.
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Post by elosha11 on Jan 1, 2020 3:34:15 GMT 5
Broken tail is the tiger with a messed up tail in the video you speak of. My point was that a tigers don't always attack bears from behind. No cougar is going to charge at people riding an elephant unlike that tiger. Here's another thing on the tigers courage. An ambush is an ambush, from behind or to the side - an unexpected attack. Each time a sloth bear faces a tiger, the tiger stops dead-in-its-tracks. As for the attack on the people - in the box - on the elephant, there is just no telling what this tiger was thinking. Perhaps panic? We don't know the whole story. But remember, no man wearing a face-mask on the back of his head has yet to be killed by a tiger. Oh, and tigers kill horse and will attack riders on horseback. ( cougar is less than half the size of a tiger ). and smedz, can you use the quote button, as I did just now, when you are quoting someone else. It makes the back and forth much easier to read. |
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smedz
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Post by smedz on Jan 1, 2020 3:45:14 GMT 5
Broken tail is the tiger with a messed up tail in the video you speak of. My point was that a tigers don't always attack bears from behind. No cougar is going to charge at people riding an elephant unlike that tiger. Here's another thing on the tigers courage. An ambush is an ambush, from behind or to the side - an unexpected attack. Each time a sloth bear faces a tiger, the tiger stops dead-in-its-tracks. As for the attack on the people - in the box - on the elephant, there is just no telling what this tiger was thinking. Perhaps panic? We don't know the whole story. But remember, no man wearing a face-mask on the back of his head has yet to be killed by a tiger. Oh, and tigers kill horse and will attack riders on horseback. ( cougar is less than half the size of a tiger ). and smedz , can you use the quote button, as I did just now, when you are quoting someone else. It makes the back and forth much easier to read. I use the quote button, no worries here. |
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Post by mountainlord on Jan 1, 2020 4:44:12 GMT 5
Brobear
No, that was a large mature male grizzly bear that turned tail and ran away from a female cougar less than half his own weight. LOL!
Your like a broken record! Your very well aware of the FACT that tigers prey on full-grown adult bears, even prey on larger Brown bears. There are numerous accounts and expert testimonies from Amur tiger biologists confirming this.
You always, and I repeat....always never post any piece of evidence to back-up your claims because you know that your blatantly lying! Brobear, your a LIAR and you know it.
I have outright defied you a million times to post any shred of proof that backs up the lies that you claim, and like always, you repeatedly FAIL miserably to provide any evidence. Because your lying and you know it.
If a tiger is "unwilling" (According to only your delusions) to go face-to-face with a sloth bear, then please explain why there's a whole load of accounts throughout history, of tigers slaughtering adult sloth bears in FACE-TO-FACE fights??
How comes there's so many accounts of tigers killing adult Brown bears in face-to-face fights too?
How comes in every single fight statistic reported by the experts, the Brown bear always comes off the loser far more often than not?
And I have posted more than enough evidence that proves that tigers not only will go head-to-head with a mature male grizzly, but they also win most fights against them! LMAO.
Dream on Brobear! Those videos clearly showed adult sloth bears (Even large males) showing pure FEAR of tigers and running away. Deal with it. In general, this is the natural relationship of predator and prey, the bear being the prey item will naturally show fear of the tiger, and the tiger being the prolific killer of bears, will be the far more dominant one of the two. Thats how nature works.
The sad thing is, that this is literally just a figment of your delusions and imagination. - FAR, FAR FROM REALITY. You have absolutely no evidence to back this claim.
And here you are again Brobear, admitting that a big male grizzly, ranging from 700 - 1000lbs will not attempt to usurp a kill from even a 400lb male tiger, simply because the tiger being so dangerous and heavily armed, the prize is simply not worth the effort and price the bear will pay:
Like always Brobear, your two-faced personality in this debate has been exposed once again!
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Post by smedz on Jan 1, 2020 5:48:56 GMT 5
moutainlord
brobear and brotherbear are different people, brobear lives in the USA, brotherbear lives in India. Look at the little flag on the profile you copy-pasted. But I can see how you made that mistake.
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Post by creature386 on Jan 1, 2020 14:14:35 GMT 5
Mountainlord has been banned for one month. I originally announced one week, but then I remember that he has already been banned this long and according to schedule, a month-long ban is the next in the row:
Also , this thread used to be locked, but since mountainlord is now gone, I think we might as well leave it open.
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Post by DonaldCengXiongAzuma on Jan 1, 2020 16:53:11 GMT 5
This thread has become the most popular thread on this forum. Generally, the tiger vs lion thread on forums are way longer.
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Post by creature386 on Jan 1, 2020 16:58:01 GMT 5
The Megalodon vs Livyathan thread has more pages and more views, so I don't know what you mean by "most popular".
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Post by DonaldCengXiongAzuma on Jan 1, 2020 17:32:12 GMT 5
I stand corrected. Still I am surprise that the tiger vs lion threads on this forum does not have as many pages or views as this thread.
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Post by DonaldCengXiongAzuma on Jan 1, 2020 18:02:23 GMT 5
Sloth bear chasing small elephant.
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smedz
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Post by smedz on Jan 1, 2020 19:47:04 GMT 5
Sloth bear chasing small elephant. There's also an account of a tiger killing a juvenile elephant, and tigers also charge at people riding elephants. Your point? |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Jan 1, 2020 19:49:17 GMT 5
creature386Correct me if I'm wrong, but does this mean mountainlord won't be back until the 1st of February?
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Post by DonaldCengXiongAzuma on Jan 1, 2020 19:53:26 GMT 5
Sloth bear chasing small elephant. There's also an account of a tiger killing a juvenile elephant, and tigers also charge at people riding elephants. Your point? IThe tiger named Charger right? He is known for charging other tigers as well as elephants. My point in posting the sloth bear charging elephant video: it is a rare scene. Yet it shows the sloth bears aggression. I have mention that tigers will beat sloth bears in a fight to death yet sloth bear’s defensively aggressive behaviour seems warranted: |
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Enjoy your day. It is a huge waste of time arguing with those in denial of the truth. 
