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Post by kekistani on Feb 8, 2020 11:29:06 GMT 5
Yeah, you do that. And watch how he still denies the facts. LOL! Someone already wants to get yeeted again Not even an entire 3 days since his first post after |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 8, 2020 19:01:19 GMT 5
How about we get a bit back on topic?
Who do you favor here, kekistani?
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Post by kekistani on Feb 8, 2020 23:03:18 GMT 5
How about we get a bit back on topic? Who do you favor here, kekistani? The bruin |
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Post by mountainlord on Feb 10, 2020 18:24:30 GMT 5
Yeah, you do that. And watch how he still denies the facts. LOL! Please take this as friendly advice. When you debate with brobear or others, leave any insults or personal attacks at the door. I do appreciate the information you provide and I know all admins would prefer constructive debate, rather than instituting bans.
Its just very, very frustrating debating with him, the guy won't even acknowledge, let alone address half the blatant evidence I show him. He just continues to repeat the same made-up stuff.
If your gonna debate someone properly, then at least address and accept evidence and accounts reported by the actual real experts and authorities. But he can't even do that.
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Post by elosha11 on Feb 10, 2020 20:56:11 GMT 5
^Feel free to point that out, as you wish, but just do so in a way that's not pejorative. Strong disagreements are fine, personal insults are not. A modicum of mutual respect elevates the discussion. Thanks.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 10, 2020 22:06:03 GMT 5
What does modicum mean?
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Post by creature386 on Feb 10, 2020 23:56:11 GMT 5
A small quantity or (in this context) a minimum.
I'd like to add that no-one is under any obligation to discuss with people seen as frustrating to discuss with. The winner of an Internet argument isn't always the one who posts last.
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 11, 2020 19:31:17 GMT 5
mountainlordIn your opinion, if the tiger is so superior to the bear, how much size advantage do you say the bear needs to win?
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Post by TheLionBoy on Feb 11, 2020 21:07:32 GMT 5
mountainlord In your opinion, if the tiger is so superior to the bear, how much size advantage do you say the bear needs to win? I too am a big cat enthusiast I think the bear needs a solid 150 lb |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 11, 2020 21:28:58 GMT 5
mountainlord In your opinion, if the tiger is so superior to the bear, how much size advantage do you say the bear needs to win? I too am a big cat enthusiast I think the bear needs a solid 150 lb Why would that be? Surely the bear has a good chance at similar weights given its stamina, durability, and robusticity? |
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Post by mountainlord on Feb 12, 2020 18:36:17 GMT 5
mountainlord In your opinion, if the tiger is so superior to the bear, how much size advantage do you say the bear needs to win?
Russian authorities widely agree that at similar weights (And parity) the tiger dominates the Brown bear in a fight, due to many more physical advantages.
When both animals have fought at similar weights, the tiger killed the bear every single time. The bear needs a clear size and weight advantage to give it a chance against a tiger.
I think a giant 1000lb Brown bear would probably defeat an average male tiger, but I think the largest male tigers, from 600 - 700 pounds, would defeat a 1000lb Brown bear. Size is not everything, as tigers have proven countless times in the wild, throughout history.
The funny thing is, you can match a 500lb tiger against a huge 1000lb Brown bear, and the bear will be in the fight of its life, and would no doubt leave that fight, badly injured and mauled. But you can never match a 300lb bear against even a 400lb tiger. Its a complete mismatch, period. In a fight to the death, the bear would get killed and eaten every single time.
And this is why, physically, the tiger is so superior to the bear. Especially on a pound for pound basis. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 12, 2020 23:10:00 GMT 5
That seems to be quite a lot. I could understand your reason for favoring the tiger at similar weights, but a 2 fold size advantage, to me, would be a mismatch in favor of the bear due to not only the mass but its sufficient weapons, durability, and stamina.
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Post by mountainlord on Feb 13, 2020 23:52:27 GMT 5
That seems to be quite a lot. I could understand your reason for favoring the tiger at similar weights, but a 2 fold size advantage, to me, would be a mismatch in favor of the bear due to not only the mass but its sufficient weapons, durability, and stamina. |
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Post by dinosauria101 on Feb 14, 2020 0:12:59 GMT 5
I would guess it has something to do with mentality. There are several examples of this in the real world where an animal that would probably win a forum-style fight to the death loses in real life due to mentality. For instance, honey badgers and pythons, and giraffes and lions. The same could well apply here, and while natural interactions do help, I don't believe they are to be used as 100% blueprint.
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Post by mountainlord on Feb 14, 2020 0:27:16 GMT 5
I would guess it has something to do with mentality. There are several examples of this in the real world where an animal that would probably win a forum-style fight to the death loses in real life due to mentality. For instance, honey badgers and pythons, and giraffes and lions. The same could well apply here, and while natural interactions do help, I don't believe they are to be used as 100% blueprint. No, in fights to the death between male tigers and male Brown bears, the tiger wins more often than not. Russian biologist and undisputed authority on tigers and bears, Rukovsky, stated that in fights between large tigers and large Brown bears, only in rare cases does the tiger lose. His fight statistics had the tiger dominate and win 11 - 2 against Brown bears, in fights to the death. All the fight statistics also confirm this. S.P Kucherenko also stated that an adult male tiger will not be killed even by a large Brown bear. There's a reason why both the Russian and Chinese widely regard the tiger to be the undisputed lord and master of the taiga. Not the Brown bear. |
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