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Post by creature386 on Sept 5, 2014 0:27:45 GMT 5
So, the prisons are basically a way for businesses to get labor cheaper than minimum wage? Wow, I never thought that the US even privatizes prisons. Not trying to sound like an ultra-liberal, but some things should be better ruled by the state.
On the other hand, private businesses controlling jails makes the idea of an execution costing more than a life long sentence pretty easy to imagine.
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Post by malikc6 on Sept 5, 2014 1:28:13 GMT 5
Malik, I would like to point out that part of the reason that the US has such a large prison population, is because the majority of prisons are run by private buisnesses, and actually want more. I'll respond to your other posts when I have more time. I also think a lot of police officers and others should be arrested. I am well aware of the private prisons. That's why you sometimes see people arrested for minor reasons. Sometimes they don't even break the law. |
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Post by theropod on Sept 5, 2014 3:33:41 GMT 5
That explains a lot…
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Post by Derdadort on Sept 24, 2014 18:43:31 GMT 5
In my opinion death penalty is an outmoded debris, which doesn't belong in a modern society. No state or institution should have the right to end the life of a human being (besides self-defence). The right to life is one of our most valuable right and can't imagine with what reason someone can decide, who's deserving it and who's not.
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Post by stomatopod on Sept 24, 2014 19:26:18 GMT 5
Well I certainly would have given Hitler and Stalin this penalty.
And JFK.
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Post by creature386 on Sept 24, 2014 21:03:35 GMT 5
I am not sure if we can count the execution of veeeerrryyy bad politicians as a reason to say "death penalty with exception", since getting such a leader in your hands is something that happens extremely rarely and in such cases the laws of a country are replaced by the law of war which would allow this anyway.
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Post by theropod on Sept 25, 2014 0:28:33 GMT 5
Yes, in practice if someone like Hitler or Stalin ever happens to be punished, it won’t be normal law. It will either be martial law, or it will be lynching anyway.
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Post by coherentsheaf on Sept 25, 2014 3:06:31 GMT 5
Saddam Hussein was executed under normal law.
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Post by creature386 on Sept 27, 2014 14:25:14 GMT 5
This is not really surprising, since death penalty exists in the normal Iraqi law and is not only used for bad politicians. What I was pointing out is that the war law could be used if none of the participating countries allows death penalty.
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Post by LeopJag on Oct 27, 2014 0:51:02 GMT 5
I'm opposed to the death penalty except in cases in the worst of the worst such as those involved in war crimes...
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Post by creature386 on Nov 2, 2014 16:55:20 GMT 5
Looks like the law can be overridden when it is a war criminal. For example West Germany abolished death penalty completely in 1949, but there was still an execution of a war criminal in 1951.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 21:21:56 GMT 5
As argued by Bolsonaro;
"I've never heard of anyone condemned to the death penalty going back to murdering people."
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Post by theropod on Dec 14, 2014 22:05:11 GMT 5
And I’ve never heard of anyone serving a life sentence going back to murdering people, but I’m sure it can happen and has happened.
People concemned to the death penalty often never actually get executed, and sometimes even are released later on. This actually qualifies as psychological turture if you ask me.
In other cases, innocent people are executed. Or people having comitted crimes of equal severity are treated differently by the justice system (some are killed, others are just locked up).
And then there’s what supercommunist wrote.
Death penalty creates far more problems than it solves, especially if in the same country, and for the same crime, one can potentially get both a life sentence or a lethal injection (or a beheading in some cases). It’s just random and arbitrary killing imo.
Thaset’s not even to say I don’t think there are people who deserve death–there sure are. I think people who admit to having committed crimes like terrorism, mass murder, rape (but not the swedish definition) etc. without showing signs of regret definitely do. But there’s a big difference between that and someone who kills another person in a fight, or someone who might even have only acted in self defence, this not being believed by the authorities.
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Post by malikc6 on Dec 15, 2014 6:07:21 GMT 5
Just shoot them in the head once everything has been thoroughly investigated and save money.
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Post by Vodmeister on Dec 15, 2014 9:57:19 GMT 5
If Vodmeister opened this thread, we'd already have two pages, what do I always do wrong? It's a secret on how to write captivating OP's.
I'll sell it to you for 20 bucks
Regarding private prisons, I couldn't believe it when I first read about them. www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQxtRcfBIXY
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