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Post by firestone on Apr 29, 2014 2:29:29 GMT 5
Fragillimus,
On W.A.E. boldchamp has 3 accounts of of a lion tiger fight in the wild. The first fight ended in a draw ( a large male tiger vs. a smaller medium sized male lion) the second fight both lion and tiger were shot dead while fighting. the third fight matched a huge lion against a gigantic tiger, ESTIMATE weight for both big cats the lion 525 lbs. the tiger 650 lbs. end result the lion killed the tiger.
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Post by pckts on Apr 29, 2014 3:26:21 GMT 5
Hans Brick absolutely favors the Tiger. You should read "the nature of the beast" which I own! Roy NEVER said he favored one or the other. Dave salmoni said he favored both in animal face off. (multiple vids exist) Courtney Riley Cooper absolutely favors the Tiger! Wow, I must say, you are quite the Liar when it comes to your claims. NTM, you do know that way more circus trainers, wild life biologists and big cat observers favor the Tiger? Hence Kersi Singh, Craig Saffoe, Jon Varty, Craig Packer, Sunquist, Karl Mitchel and many more wild life experts. Mabel Stark, Riley Cooper, Pat Anthony, Gunther Gabel Williams, Alex Kerr, Carl Riter, Alfred Court, Charley Bauman, Capt Dutch, and many others, All favor the tiger. Of course, here are there actual quotes and references animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/topic/4521/The-truth-about-Courtney-Ryley-Cooper-Tiger-trainer?page=2#.U17S61cysygLouis Roth (beatty, mabel, jacobs ) trainer says the tiger is the more dangerous and he specifically says that he has seen tigers kill lions. Roman Proske specifically says that Tigers are the most fericious, dangerous and vicious cats alive. He specifically says that he say a large black maned lion killed by a tiger with one bite to the neck. |
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Post by pckts on Apr 29, 2014 3:40:05 GMT 5
Fragillimus, On W.A.E. boldchamp has 3 accounts of of a lion tiger fight in the wild. The first fight ended in a draw ( a large male tiger vs. a smaller medium sized male lion) the second fight both lion and tiger were shot dead while fighting. the third fight matched a huge lion against a gigantic tiger, ESTIMATE weight for both big cats the lion 525 lbs. the tiger 650 lbs. end result the lion killed the tiger. Firestone, bold has 0 accounts of wild lion and tiger fights. Because they have never occurred. There is one bs account of a fight between a lion and tiger, the lion finally was the victor then a crocodile came out of the water and snatched the lion. LOL. That is not a account. There has never been a actual event between a lion and tiger in the wild. Here is a big list of all the trainers and quotes animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/topic/4605/Tigers-fighten-technique?page=25#.U17VWFcysygBut the one verified release of wild lions in india resulted in this... Firestone, bold has 0 accounts of wild lion and tiger fights. Because they have never occurred. There is one bs account of a fight between a lion and tiger, the lion finally was the victor then a crocodile came out of the water and snatched the lion. LOL. That is not a account. There has never been a actual event between a lion and tiger in the wild. Here is a big list of all the trainers and quotes animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/topic/4605/Tigers-fighten-technique?page=25#.U17VWFcysygBut the one verified release of wild lions in india resulted in this...     My advice is to not listen to fireston. He is obviously spreading false info. If you are going to listen to anybody about tigers, it is Gaute. And i have probably done more research on circus accounts and lion vs tiger accounts than 99% of you guys. |
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Post by creature386 on Apr 29, 2014 17:41:08 GMT 5
firestoneYou could use the argument of "among" to include the tiger as well in the list of "among the most powerful". Also, I don't think much of "experts" who waste their time on something like hypothetical interspecific conflicts, we do this for fun. They can evaluate who usually dominates in face offs (where the conditions are not always one on one or two prime males face to face), but not say who is superior.
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Post by firestone on Apr 30, 2014 4:53:59 GMT 5
pkcts.
I got NATURE OF THE BEAST 1960 By Hans Brick.
There's a page in which, I'll have to find it IN SO MANY WORDS Brick says a lion is more powerful.
Bold and Prime have owned all of you tiger fanatics on W.A.E. and A.V.A. Prime has exposed all of the lies on the lying tiger fanatic website jacksonwebs and freewebs. What you tiger fanatics do when owned you ban people. ptigris banned me 'cause I owned him
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Post by firestone on Apr 30, 2014 5:51:44 GMT 5
pkcts.
Me, Prime, and schamah got banned on A.V.A. by tiger fanatic PEE-rault and the other clown I forgot his name, 'cause we owned them, and showed their lying websites freewebs and jacksonwebs to be fake, false, fabrications, lies and opinions. You tiger fanatics can say what you want about Prime, he may not be rapped tight upstairs, but when it comes to lion vs. tiger debate he knows his stuff, and he has documented info to back what he says.
First of all;
The New King James Bible
Proverbs 30;30 "A lion which is mighty among beasts and does not turn aside from any".
Notice, a lion is mentioned in Proverbs 30;30, NOT a tiger. Proverbs 30;30 DOES NOT say a lion is MIGHTIEST of the beasts, but mighty AMONG beasts. Of course there are MIGHTIER beasts than the lion, whales, sharks, elephants, rhinos, but the lion is mentioned in Proverbs 30;30 as AMONG these mighty beasts, NOT the tiger I HOPE you know the dam difference. You tiger fanatics are very good at being WILLFULLY stupid.
Proverbs 30;30 are the words of "THE ALMIGHTY"
"THE ALMIGHTY" created the animals, he ought to know which animals are more dominant than other animals.
pkcts,
Are you stupid enough to debate "THE ALMIGHTY" ?
"THE ALMIGHTY" created the animals, he knows which animals are more dominant than other animals.
In fact all 3 sacred books the BIble, the Koran, the Tanakh, all mention the lion, but there is NO mention of a tiger in NONE of these 3 sacred books. The writers of these 3 sacred books were ALL familiar with both the Asian lion and Caspian tiger. Look at a map of Bible lands, and you'll find the Bible lands maps covered MOST of the Caspian tiger's domain. but there's not any mention of the Caspian tiger in NONE of these 3 sacred books. It just goes to show that the ancients thought more highly of the Asian lion than they did of the Caspian tiger. You might would say man wrote the Bible, this is true, but they wrote the Bible as they where MOVED by the "SPIRIT" of "THE ALMIGHTY".
Proverbs 30;30 is confirmed by the following;
Clyde Beatty (exactly)
Hans Brick (a tiger fan, not exactly, but in so many words)
Hal Riter (exactly)
Bert Nelson (exactly)
Dave Hoover (exactly)
Courtney Riley Cooper (a tiger fan, not exactly, but in so many words)
Jim Chipperfield ( IN SO MANY WORDS)
Roy Horn of Siegfried & Roy (not exactly, but in so many words)
Dr. Kailash Sankhala (a tiger expert, exactly
Dave Salmoni (exactly)
Roy Miller (exactly)
Animal face-off (exactly)
pkcts,
For you to say that boldchamp has 0 references on lion tiger fights in the wild, when bold and Prime owned you tiger fanatics on W.A.E. and A.V.A. lets me know you're full of dog FECES, typical tiger fanatic. IF bold has 0 references on A.V.A. it's because of PEE-rault the administrator ( tiger fanatic of A.V.A.) deleted the references.
But one thing you tiger fanatics cannot delete, that's the word of "THE ALMIGHTY".
"THE ALMIGHTY has spoken, Proverbs 30;30 ENDS the lion vs. tiger debate.
The debate is over with, you tiger fanatics HAVE LOST.
If you want to see bold's 3 accounts of lion tiger fights in the wild, go to wildanimalelite.yuku.com, click "lion vs. tiger in the wild". On W.A.E. check on ALL lion vs. tiger threads, and you'll see my posts of big cat CIRCUS trainers and big cats experts quotes favoring a lion over a tiger.
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Post by firestone on Apr 30, 2014 6:58:00 GMT 5
creature386
The ancients, the writers of the Bible, the Koran, the Tanakh, were ALL familiar with both the Asian lion and the Caspian tiger. the Caspian tiger was roughly ALMOST the same size as a Bengal tiger. Look at Bible Lands, map, and you'll see the map covered MOST of the believed to be extinct Caspian tiger's domain, i.e. Eastern Turkey, Eastern Iraq, and Western Persia. Thus the writers of the Bible, the Koran and the Tanakh were indeed famailiar with the Caspian tiger. But in all 3 of these sacred books there is mention of the Asian lion, but there is NO mention of the Caspian tiger. It just goes to show the writers of the Bible, the Koran, and the Tanakh thought more highly of the Asian lion than they did of the Caspian tiger. That reason being is because they SAW the Asian lion dominate the Caspian tiger. Both big cats SHARED the same ancient habitats, i.e. Eastern Turkey, Eastern Iraq, and Western Persia.
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Post by Fragillimus335 on Apr 30, 2014 7:26:19 GMT 5
creature386, Now we know "THE ALMIGHTY" sees ALL, knows ALL, and controls ALL, right ? We know "THE ALMIGHTY" created humanity and the animals, right ? We know "THE ALMIGHTY" knows ALL the animals he created, right ? Thus in Proverbs 30;30, why "THE ALMIGHTY" did not move the writer of Proverbs 30;30 to mention the Caspian tiger instead of the Asian lion ? Both the Asian lion and Caspian tiger were native to the Bible Lands regions, look at the Bible Lands map. So why did "THE ALMIGHTY moved the writer of Proverbs 30;30 to mention the lion and NOT the tiger ? because "THE ALMIGHTY" knows 'cause of the way he created the lion, to be hunter and fighter, and the tiger MOSTLY a hunter and MOSTLY limited fighter, the lion is going to be mightier than the tiger, it's only common sense. This is the reason he moved the writer of Proverbs 30;30 to mention the lion and NOT the tiger. The Caspian tiger was known to the writers of the Bible, the Koran, and the Tanakh. Firestone, you need to stop. I don't know how old you are, but you are acting like you're 6. Mythical texts can't be used to prove the "mightiness" of an animal. Or I suppose I could say that boars are the most powerful animals because the gods once called a boar the mightiest creature in the land… lol. Only use the physiology of the animals in question please, or leave. Tigers are almost identical to lions structurally, and are significantly larger than lions, while also having comparable or lesser body fat. This means that they are EMPIRICALLY stronger than lions. |
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Post by firestone on Apr 30, 2014 7:37:51 GMT 5
fragillimus,
You need to stop being warped and delusional and get out of your fantasyland and accept the fact lions dominate tigers. that's the thing about you tiger fanatics, you live in fantasyland, get into the real world.
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Post by Fragillimus335 on Apr 30, 2014 7:56:07 GMT 5
fragillimus, You need to stop being warped and delusional and get out of your fantasyland and accept the fact lions dominate tigers. that's the thing about you tiger fanatics, you live in fantasyland, get into the real world. So far you are the only one to go on a berserk, slur-filled rant on this thread, so don't lecture me on delusions. |
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Post by guategojira on Apr 30, 2014 8:39:50 GMT 5
If the moderators want a good and healthy forum, they most ban Firestone and erase all his post NOW!
This is going to escalate more and more, I have told this before.
Creature and Life, the only solution is to ban Firetstone and reset this topic from all his/her posts.
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Post by creature386 on Apr 30, 2014 19:44:14 GMT 5
He just got banned.
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Post by pckts on May 1, 2014 2:29:41 GMT 5
 I didn't see that he was banned already, but it is for the best. Just so you know, here is one of his "claims" about a lion sider "Courtney Riley Cooper" who specifically makes mention on the topic and obviously favors the tiger. I will not instigate this debate further. Sorry for even opening up that can of worms. |
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Post by pckts on May 1, 2014 2:53:01 GMT 5
pkcts. I got NATURE OF THE BEAST 1960 By Hans Brick. There's a page in which, I'll have to find it IN SO MANY WORDS Brick says a lion is more powerful. Bold and Prime have owned all of you tiger fanatics on W.A.E. and A.V.A. Prime has exposed all of the lies on the lying tiger fanatic website jacksonwebs and freewebs. What you tiger fanatics do when owned you ban people. ptigris banned me 'cause I owned him Here is the actual book with what hans says about lions and tigers     Here is a great description on why the tiger and lion have the characteristics that they do. And as you can see, in no way does Hans say the lion is tougher or stronger or more ferocious, etc... He does make it a point to say that "the most terrifying sound in the animal kingdom is a tigers roar" and that "tigers are either dangerous or really dangerous" etc. |
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Post by Infinity Blade on Oct 4, 2014 19:34:34 GMT 5
Something's not right.
Runic stated earlier that the lion had the larger head but pckts responded that the tiger had the stronger bite. These two viewpoints are contradictory and only one can be true. A larger head-especially with animals this similar in cranial (and every aspect of for that matter) morphology-would equate to more room for jaw adductor muscles, hence a stronger bite. So which is true? For the one that is, how great is the disparity between head size or bite force?
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